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Not that it matters a whit, but my positive experiences with 1oz vs 1 1/8 oz shot at long ranges mirror the post above.

Drew;
Thsnk you for posting George Earls pictures! They are
really wonderful with all of the dogs, ladies and gentlemen and bright colors. It brings the
true essence of days gone by and our English sxs's
and our anticipation of this fall's hunting.
Herb

Drew, I too thank you for posting these great tales of old England and Walsingham, Ripon and Duleep Singh. Great reading! Many thanks. Rich

"Olly" by Rupert Godfrey is a fascinating read on the life of Ripon. It is available from the author here: http://www.rupertgodfrey.co.uk/Marquis_of_Ripon_biography.html

I've only ever had two days at grouse on the moor. Very different shooting to my usual pheasants and partridge. I still find the humble woodpigeon to be the hardest bird to hit in a high wind and perhaps the most sporting of all, though!

Tim

Beagle, interesting about the revised edition. I was unaware of it. One more book to look out for.

Grouse can be a bit immature on the 12th. some moors just shoot a few just to be able to say they went out on the 12th. Most moors, my local one included, never start until the end of the month or early September.

As to young birds I came across a brood of five young mallard two days ago that couldn't have been more than 2 or 3 days old. Lagopus.....

I do feel that it is a little late to add to this posting my excuse is I have been on vacation and the Drew Hause posting of the George Earls pictures was more a shock than surprise, then while I was on vacation there was another shock with the same picture connection.
I was born and spent the years to my early twenties in the City of Liverpool and like a lot of young Brits visits to the local Public House�s (Bars) was a rite of passage and one of the more frequented was one named �The Vines� in Lime Street situated in Liverpool centre. Now in one of the rooms hung a couple of oil paintings featuring people dogs and luggage at stations, now as the night�s liquor consumption progressed there where all sorts of contests like how many dogs besides English setters or pointers are there, added to how many gun cases there are and so on? Also why where there no black or golden Labrador retrievers in the pictures with the hardest thing of all how many lights are there at Perth Station questions to be answered after far too many rounds of drinks had been consumed. The next instalment to the picture story was while on vacation I decided to visit the Railway Museum in York and what should be hanging in one of the Museum exhibition rooms? George Earls pictures of King�s Cross Station and Perth Station those original pictures from the Vines Public house Liverpool each being rescued from the public house in 1990 before it was totally refurbished in each case it was like meeting two old friends.

I didn't know that they were once in a pub in Liverpool. I have seen them at the York Railway Museum. They are beautifully displayed.

As to Labradors it is because there were probably none around when the picture was painted. They are a very recent breed. The main dogs of the period would have been the Flat Coat Retriever for the Gentleman, the Curley Coat for the Wildfowler or Gamekeeper and the various Setters and Pointers for walked up grouse shooting over muzzle loaders and early breech loaders. Lagopus.....

Re: dogs of the era

George William Horlor (1849-1890) "The Day's Bag"



"End of The Day's Sport"

Possibly a Lab

Thorburn's "Coming Over the Guns - Partridges 1899"

There are good quality prints of the George Earl pictures available. I have them hanging on a landing half way up the stairs!