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Thanks for showing it WS. Since the exercise is about design and aesthetics, to me the top lever is just too drastic a contrast to the engraving theme and style. I also think the trigger guard shape looks like a cost effective after thought. I'd think they wanted more surface area to engrave, but bulk of the receiver comes off looking heavy to me. Good for Beretta though, they probably figure it's a limited market.
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The bottom of that page has a link to the standard 486.
Some will like it better.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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Beretta hasn't put a proper rib on any of their sxs's in a long time. If they would offer the 486 with a level flat topped rib instead of that semi-swamped abomination they've used for years, and a nice long semi-beavertail, with 32" barrels, I would put my order in tomorrow. Oh yeah.
JR
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Looks like a SxS Centergy!! Now that's funny.
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I have no problems with the design or look but then I LIKE Darnes! It appears from this reference http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/reviews/shotgun/gun-reviews-beretta-486-parallelo-shotgunthat the gun has been designed for today's world. I have seen one reference where the safety is manual and another where if the gun is held in a less than level position, the safety goes to ON. Whatever is the correct working, I applaud Beretta for designing something new! I would also expect that modern manufacturing methods and maintenance have been melded into the design process. As to double triggers being better than single triggers, that ship has long ago sailed. So called 'experts', don;t like anything new or different, be it double triggers, PDK transmissions, semi conductor amps and the list goes on. Me, 'the proof is in the pudding' and I wouldn;t disparage the gun until I shot one. But from what I have learned it's only available in 3" 12 gauge at about 7#s. Too heavy for a field gun for me and too light for waterfowl or Clays. It does have a certain aesthetic appleal to me but I just don't require another shotgun.-Dick
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I like that it doesn't have a beavertail. That's about the only thing I can find to like about that one.
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Interesting attempt, but Beretta dropped the ball on letting this out of the factory as is. Pluses: I love the wood surrounding the receiver. Beautiful and difficult to do. Bar in wood guns and island locks have long been considered some of the most attractive attributes on a SxS. I like the barrels, but it's not a new thing. I had a Beretta 470, one of the original run, that had mono bloc barrels with no perceivable joint. They stopped making them that way because it was too expensive. The receiver shape is gorgeous and sexy. And those aren't snakes - they're dragons. I like dragons, but saying they are a tribute to pheasants because they are Asian is just stupid. With that logic they could have put a teapot on the gun because it's Asian. I like the swamped rib. When I shoot I try to not look at the gun, so ribs don't mean much to me. Minuses: I believe the top lever is minimalist and not supposed to detract from the rest of the gun. It is simply awful. I thought Italians knew how to make things pretty. The trigger guard is so out of place it immediately draws your eye, but certainly not in a good way. The traditional ways of attaching guards work well and many of them are attractive. The leaf springs are traditional, but not required for great trigger pulls. I'll bet they are a pain to replace in this gun. I still have not seen any laser engraving that I like at all. So, I do applaude Beretta for trying to push the design and aesthetics of the SxS, but this failed. Fixing the shape of the trigger guard and top lever will transform the look of this gun. I looked at some of the stuff that Marc Newsom is famous for designing. I have a fairly well rounded and sophisticated sense of style, but he doesn't do much for me. What Beretta was trying to do has already been done by another Italian company. Here's the real deal. http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-2187-exc...ith-case-47078/The Bertuzzi Orione is the most svelte, sexiest game gun ever made, IMHO. Regards, Jeff
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Interesting attempt, but Beretta dropped the ball on letting this out of the factory as is. Pluses: I love the wood surrounding the receiver. Beautiful and difficult to do. Bar in wood guns and island locks have long been considered some of the most attractive attributes on a SxS. I like the barrels, but it's not a new thing. I had a Beretta 470, one of the original run, that had mono bloc barrels with no perceivable joint. They stopped making them that way because it was too expensive. The receiver shape is gorgeous and sexy. And those aren't snakes - they're dragons. I like dragons, but saying they are a tribute to pheasants because they are Asian is just stupid. With that logic they could have put a teapot on the gun because it's Asian. I like the swamped rib. When I shoot I try to not look at the gun, so ribs don't mean much to me. Minuses: I believe the top lever is minimalist and not supposed to detract from the rest of the gun. It is simply awful. I thought Italians knew how to make things pretty. The trigger guard is so out of place it immediately draws your eye, but certainly not in a good way. The traditional ways of attaching guards work well and many of them are attractive. The leaf springs are traditional, but not required for great trigger pulls. I'll bet they are a pain to replace in this gun. I still have not seen any laser engraving that I like at all. So, I do applaude Beretta for trying to push the design and aesthetics of the SxS, but this failed. Fixing the shape of the trigger guard and top lever will transform the look of this gun. I looked at some of the stuff that Marc Newsom is famous for designing. I have a fairly well rounded and sophisticated sense of style, but he doesn't do much for me. What Beretta was trying to do has already been done by another Italian company. Here's the real deal. http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-2187-exc...ith-case-47078/The Bertuzzi Orione is the most svelte, sexiest game gun ever made, IMHO. Regards, Jeff Pretty, but a non-selective single trigger on a gun that expensive is a total turn off to me.
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I am a big fan of lovely, full, breast-like beaded ball fences,so have to say its not my cup of tea.
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