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#386613 12/09/14 07:23 AM
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If you've ever wondered what started us down the path to socialist decline you need to go back to the Wilson Administration for the root cause. Read on.
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The decline of the American century, 1914-2014

Washington Times, by Thomas V. DiBacco

In 1914, in his second annual address to Congress, President Wilson signaled to the world that the significant role that his White House predecessor, Theodore Roosevelt, had carved out for the United States as a strong military power was being relinquished. No matter that TR had built up the American Navy and displayed it on a global cruise in 1907, Wilson, at the beginning of World War I, washed his hands of a strong presence abroad.

“We are, indeed,” he said in his message, “a true friend to all nations of the world, because we threaten none, covet the possessions of none, desire the overthrow of none. Our friendship can be accepted and is accepted without reservation, because it is offered in a spirit and for a purpose which no one need ever question or suspect. Therein lies our greatness. We are the champions of peace and of concord.”

The result of Wilson’s naiveté was Adolf Hitler’s challenge to world order within two decades.

Like President Obama, Wilson had absolutely no experience in foreign policy. As a university professor, he specialized in political science, a field not too distant from . Obama’s constitutional law. The insecure Obama, like Wilson, chose a weak vice president so as not to be upstaged at home and abroad. Wilson was saddled with Thomas R. Marshall of Indiana as his No. 2, best known for his remark: “What this country needs is a really good 5 cent cigar.” Mr. Obama’s veep, Joe Biden has been an embarrassment.

Both men would win Nobel Peace Prizes because their rhetoric was strong-sounding, just the opposite of TR’s diminution of words in favor of military strength (“Walk softly but carry a big stick”). Recall that TR won a Nobel Prize, too, but it was for action, not rhetoric, by mediating in 1905 an end to the Russo-Japanese War.

Even after the British luxury liner, the Lusitania, was sunk by German submarines in May 1915, killing more than 1,000 passengers, including Americans, Wilson preferred fatuous comments to sensible action: “There is such a thing as a man being too proud to fight. There is such a thing as a nation being so right that it does not need to convince others by force that it is right.”

To be sure, American entry into World War II put an end to such nonsense, and the nation became the world leader, utilizing a simple, but powerful strategy, namely, “unconditional surrender” to impose on the Axis powers.

The tragedy of the Obama administration is that it has not only turned its back on the tradition of the United States as the leading nation to promote world order but that it has criticized that legacy, even offering apologies for our history. To Obama, foreign policy consists of his touring the world, meeting with national leaders, coming home, and interpreting his unctuous, sashaying tour as a tour de force. His guiding light in dealing with adversaries, such as Iran, is concession.

Little wonder that 53 percent of Americans, in a Gallup poll earlier this year, believed that other countries across the world don’t respect Obama.
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Originally Posted By: James M

“We are, indeed,” he said in his message, “a true friend to all nations of the world, because we threaten none, covet the possessions of none, desire the overthrow of none. Our friendship can be accepted and is accepted without reservation, because it is offered in a spirit and for a purpose which no one need ever question or suspect. Therein lies our greatness. We are the champions of peace and of concord.”



That's where we screwed up...

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"The result of Wilson’s naiveté was Adolf Hitler’s challenge to world order within two decades."

now that statement is really weird...i mean to suggest that because wilson desired peace in 1914, nazis took control of germany in 1934, indicates an ignorance of history...

may i suggest that the defeat of germany in 1918, plus the war reparations germans were required to pay in the 1920's, and then followed by the great depression in the 1930's created an atmosphere of anger, desperation and fear on the part of the majority of german people.

the stage was set. the scapegoat was identified. hitler told erm what they wanted to hear and they went for it hook, line and sinker.

what that had to do with woodrow wilson and his desire for world peace in 1914, i know not.


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and a lesson we should learn from the rise of nazism is to not be suckered by some guys who claim the problems of our country are not our fault and we should blame all of our troubles on some readily identifiable minority group of us or of some body else.


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Originally Posted By: James M
If you've ever wondered what started us down the path to socialist decline you need to go back to the Wilson Administration for the root cause. Read on.
Jim



The decline of the American century, 1914-2014

Washington Times, by Thomas V. DiBacco

In 1914, in his second annual address to Congress, President Wilson signaled to the world that the significant role that his White House predecessor, Theodore Roosevelt, had carved out for the United States as a strong military power was being relinquished. No matter that TR had built up the American Navy and displayed it on a global cruise in 1907, Wilson, at the beginning of World War I, washed his hands of a strong presence abroad.

“We are, indeed,” he said in his message, “a true friend to all nations of the world, because we threaten none, covet the possessions of none, desire the overthrow of none. Our friendship can be accepted and is accepted without reservation, because it is offered in a spirit and for a purpose which no one need ever question or suspect. Therein lies our greatness. We are the champions of peace and of concord.”

The result of Wilson’s naiveté was Adolf Hitler’s challenge to world order within two decades.

Like President Obama, Wilson had absolutely no experience in foreign policy. As a university professor, he specialized in political science, a field not too distant from . Obama’s constitutional law. The insecure Obama, like Wilson, chose a weak vice president so as not to be upstaged at home and abroad. Wilson was saddled with Thomas R. Marshall of Indiana as his No. 2, best known for his remark: “What this country needs is a really good 5 cent cigar.” Mr. Obama’s veep, Joe Biden has been an embarrassment.

Both men would win Nobel Peace Prizes because their rhetoric was strong-sounding, just the opposite of TR’s diminution of words in favor of military strength (“Walk softly but carry a big stick”). Recall that TR won a Nobel Prize, too, but it was for action, not rhetoric, by mediating in 1905 an end to the Russo-Japanese War.

Even after the British luxury liner, the Lusitania, was sunk by German submarines in May 1915, killing more than 1,000 passengers, including Americans, Wilson preferred fatuous comments to sensible action: “There is such a thing as a man being too proud to fight. There is such a thing as a nation being so right that it does not need to convince others by force that it is right.”

To be sure, American entry into World War II put an end to such nonsense, and the nation became the world leader, utilizing a simple, but powerful strategy, namely, “unconditional surrender” to impose on the Axis powers.

The tragedy of the Obama administration is that it has not only turned its back on the tradition of the United States as the leading nation to promote world order but that it has criticized that legacy, even offering apologies for our history. To Obama, foreign policy consists of his touring the world, meeting with national leaders, coming home, and interpreting his unctuous, sashaying tour as a tour de force. His guiding light in dealing with adversaries, such as Iran, is concession.

Little wonder that 53 percent of Americans, in a Gallup poll earlier this year, believed that other countries across the world don’t respect Obama.
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Wilson was an academic, former Princeton president- Teddy was a "Balls to the War" warrior- Wilson was controlled by his wives, now we see how we got the 1920 Suffragette act- and if you think Edith Wilson could &^%$ things up at 1600 PA Ave- wait until 2017 when Billary gets her power-hungry ass elected FOTUS--

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Weak minded ed is just too stupid to understand that it was perceived weakness that allowed Hitler to rise and encouraged the Japanese to attack. Wilson set that stage, but other Liberal Progressives continued an insular isolationist policy. Franklin Roosevelt was even unsure that he could involve the U.S. in Europe until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and the Phillipines. It was strength that overcame both. The same perceived weakness by Obama has emboldened the North Koreans, China, Putin's Russia, Iran, and most of the Islamic world. Liberal Progressives are very good at creating serious problems and then blaming others for the inevitable aftermath. Liberalism is a mental disorder, and ed is seriously afflicted.


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"Liberalism is a mental disorder,"

or the foundation of civilization? i mean without liberalism, there wouild be no rule of law...and without that, we become like the animals of the jungle...


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Originally Posted By: ed good
"Liberalism is a mental disorder,"

or the foundation of civilization? i mean without liberalism, there wouild be no rule of law...and without that, we become like the animals of the jungle...


Do you have data to support this moronic statement, or are you just talking out of your ass again and being the Village Idiot?

We all saw your "animals of the jungle" discounting and ignoring the rule of law as they burned and looted in Ferguson, Mo. Those weren't Conservative Republicans. What a dumbass.


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keith: try reading this as an introduction to "liberalism"...then get back to us with your questions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism


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here is the first paragraph to wet your appetite for knowledge:

Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty (which is especially stressed in classical liberalism) and equality (which is more evident in social liberalism).[1] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property.


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