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I see you're posting again. Found on sidelocks from a Vouzelaud. French gun, but the proofmarks on the barrels are Belgian, and the flats also have the initials JLD, which could be the same Donnay. See the thread a couple pages back. Thanks!

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Not really. I chased him a bit when you 1st acquired the double. Seems Donnay was a gunmaking family in Liege:

Francois Noel Joseph Donnay born 07.01.1842 - died 24.02.1906

Joseph Donnay was born Oktober 2nd, 1863 in Liege by 1st marriage to unknown?

FNJD Married Elisabeth Bertrand in 1842 & had 3 additional kids with sons being Joseph Donnay(previous marriage) & Henri Hubert Donnay(1878). All men were listed as armuriers.

Then I noticed a Joseph Donnay of Liege expiring in 2013 & 2014(at least 1 was an armurier). Ah, let me look again a bit closer.

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I don't have the correct accents but Armand Donnay landed up in trouble with the law it appears:

"Un armurier liegeois arrete pour trafic d'armes

Un armurier liegeois, Armand Donnay, 44 ans, exploitant la societe "Armes", situee rue des Oblats, 37, a Givegnee, a ete arrete venredi 3 aout pour trafic d'armes

En mars 1975, des truanda francais avaient ete apprehendes a Paris alors qu'ils etaient en possessions d'une cinquantaine de mitraillettes. On a pu determiner que les armes etaient passees par le banc d'epreuve de Liege, ce qui a permis de remonter ensuite jusqu'a Donnay"

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Raimey, I can confirm this, his son (Dominique) is still active in Liége and he is a authorised licensed gun dealer.
Happy New Yaer to all our members. Greetings from Belgium, Marc.

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Thanks Marc. Have you more info on the lineage or ancestry of the Donnay gunmaking family of Liege?

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Thanks for chasing that down, Raimey. If a Jos. died in 2013 or 2014, that might well be the individual I'm looking for. Very modern gun, highly doubtful it would go back to the chap born in 1863.

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Raimey, I don't have more info then you have all ready. I know that Armand had 2 children 1 girl and 1 boy named Dominique who obtained his gunmakers (gundealers) license in june 2006 and is still active in the trade and gunmaking. I met him once and have spoken with him.
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Mr. Brown, no worries mate. From what I remember, both of the Joseph Donney fellas were born in the early 1930s and one was from Jupille-sur-Meuse. I suspect he to be our culprit but I have not seen any middle names. There was a Joseph Donnay(1887-1967) of Saive, Liege that married a Marie Jeanne Hariga in 1915 & they had several childred one being Lèon in 1925 & he had a son named Luc. Not sure if any were armuriers.

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Early 30's birth, I'm guessing, would probably fit. Thanks again.


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