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R.R., You have better perspective than I. I am in a state of double barrel information-overload...and, I'm not really a Remington collector, so I've probably missed out on a lot of info you Remington collectors take for granted. Without you and Researcher, this thread would have stalled . Would you classify that oddity as a transitional gun? . I'm really looking forward to whatever guns turn up at the crossroads...Thanks again for taking a personal interest
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Robert,
We are now into the realm of overlap. I was reviewing Semmer last night, and on pages 222 and 223 he shows a rather unusual CEO-Grade Pigeon Gun with the "improved lock" and serial number 132037. Charles also did an article on this Pigeon Gun in The Double Gun Journal, Volume Five, Issue 2, Page 138.
I passed on that gun at a Richmond, Virginia, gun show years ago because to my eye it was obviously restocked. My only other opportunity at a Remington Pigeon Gun was also many years ago at a Pikesville, Maryland, gun show where "The Dutchman" had a well used straight grip DEO-Grade Pigeon Gun, but it had been fitted with an aftermarket safety, so I passed again. That gun must have disappeared into someones gun safe, as I've not seen it surface again.
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My CEO improved 94 is serial number 132328
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Well further examination reveals that the hammer travels the same distance on the improved model, so no additional lock speed there...where the improvement really shows, is the greater mechanical advantage given by both lengthening the lever and shortening the sear at the same time. Trigger pulls of the standard and improved lock guns must be markedly different. BTW...hammer toe distance and cocking lever distances remain the same in both models. Shown in this way, it's easy to see which sear lever offers more mechanical advantage
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The fact that all the other dimensions are the same means that the improved sear could very easily be used with the old style hammer with integrel firing pins...I haven't seen one like this, but I guess it's possible
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I'm confused here. I have what I thought was an 1894 with a Damascus barrel. It is not engraved and has a 322,xxx serial #. Is it a 1900 or an 1894?
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drduc, The 1900 is in the 300000 serial number range, the 1894 is in the 100000 range. The 1900 forend is removed by pulling it off, the 1894 is removed by pushing the button on the end and then removing the forend. Here is a pic of a 1894 forend.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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I just pulled them all out of the safe, and five have the "improved lock" and two the "standard lock." All five with the "improved lock" have concave ribs, while the two with the "standard lock have the high flat ribs. Both guns with the "standard lock" have the raised safety slide, while the two earliest "improved lock" guns also have the raised safety slide. The late 1906, the 1907, and the 1909 guns have the dished out safety slide.
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