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Sidelock
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Here are a couple of examples of locks purchased from AyA and used by other gun makers. Lucio Loyola gun made for Trust Eibarres(1946)  Vuida e Hijos de Francisco Arizaga (1958) 
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Sidelock
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And a couple of AyA made barrels on AyA guns. AyA Model 53 (1973)  AyA Model 117 (1970) 
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Grulla has gone the way of other makers in Spain. They have dropped some of the lower priced guns and have concentrated on building fewer guns at a larger starting price. Garbi did this many years ago, now Arrieta has followed.
A few years ago, the barrel maker was going to close down, AYA purchase them. They supply the barrels to the Spanish makers, just like before
John Boyd
Quality Arms
John Boyd
Quality Arms Inc
Houston, TX
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Kylie,
I know you are very knowledgable on the subject of Spanish doubles.
Any idea where I can find an upper tier Martin Ugarteburu? I have a nice condition model 108 ( with an assisted opener and swamped rib). I am suitably impressed with the quality that I would like to add one of his high grade guns to my stable. Any leads would be appreciated.
Best regards,
JBP
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Sidelock
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Grulla has gone the way of other makers in Spain. They have dropped some of the lower priced guns and have concentrated on building fewer guns at a larger starting price. Garbi did this many years ago, now Arrieta has followed.
A few years ago, the barrel maker was going to close down, AYA purchase them. They supply the barrels to the Spanish makers, just like before
John Boyd
Quality Arms Hi John, I'd heard that one of the two barrel makers went out of businesss, and sold their tooling to AyA. But this is Spain - who knows?
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Kylie,
I know you are very knowledgable on the subject of Spanish doubles.
Any idea where I can find an upper tier Martin Ugarteburu? I have a nice condition model 108 ( with an assisted opener and swamped rib). I am suitably impressed with the quality that I would like to add one of his high grade guns to my stable. Any leads would be appreciated.
Best regards,
JBP PM send.
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I had a muzzleloader that was built in Spain by <AMR> that was the stamp on the barrels. It was a beautiful shotgun feather light and tough as nails.
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I had a muzzleloader that was built in Spain by <AMR> that was the stamp on the barrels. It was a beautiful shotgun feather light and tough as nails. AMR: Originally A. Marcos Relea, later Anchu S.L. Avancargas. I've seen only one AMR, a nicely done boxlock.
Last edited by Kyrie; 03/16/15 03:34 PM.
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Yes Sir!!! Didn't know about the Anchu S.L. Avancargas thank you for that information. And you Sir, need to write a book. And if you already have you need to tell me where I can buy it. 
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I know it is an internet photo and all, but, that first lock pictured up there goes a loooong way toward explaining how Spanish makers got a reputation for not being exactly great quality.
While I get the price point thing, if that is the quality you can produce for the price you are getting, it might be time to find work helping your brother-in-law with his garbage truck route.
I say this as a happy Spanish boxlock owner, an Uggy Falcon. But, if I opened it up and saw something like that, I'd be moving it along.
Best,
Ted
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