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One of the recent steps taken in your state is to allow the legal use of marijuana. But, that implies that there is also an illegal use. The penalty for a crime, make a doctors appointment?

You did say the offenses are not all equivalent, and not all should be released from prison. Does it make sense to encourage the use of something then turn around and say, you have a medical problem, get help.

Some eighty percent of ocare enrollees are subsidized as it is, one way of paying the bills is to sell off unproductive fed land that's only used by a few hunters. No, I'm not playing games, just pointing out that medical costs are a sixth of our entire economy, and creating new patients and making them wards of the medical community does seem like a thought through solution.

Maybe, since body art is so popular, a big tattoo on the forehead is a thought to purchase at pot shops or to get medical coverage for addiction. That way folks that enjoy getting high can identify like minded people easily, and the medical folks know that the einsteins with the tats get penciled in at the back of the waiting list.

To me what does not make sense is continuing to follow a failed policy. We spent more money on this issue than any other developed country and yet have the least amount of success. To me, it might be time to admit that the current strategy does not work and look to see how others have dealt with the issue better than we have. I have seen estimates of between 60 and 70 billion a year spent on the prison system. Last year the federal BOP had a budget of over 8 billion and yet we are not winning the drug war.

Well some may not approve of Colorado's legalization, our economy is doing very well, we have a red hot real estate market and our schools are very well funded currently. I think our voters most likely made the right call on this issue. Our local law enforcement is very happy with the new law. They are now able to focus limited resources on more serious crime. Time will tell but the sky has not fallen yet here. This may all be a brief moment in time anyway due to the pending case before SCOTUS and the outcome of next years Presidential race.

i read an article that said projected income has fallen short in colorado.being a cash business(mostly)probably has something to do with it.i dont care what adults do but when it affects children in a big way it is a problem just like alcohol or the abuse of anything it will get to be a problem ,i don't have an answer.i wonder what the cost is for habitual criminal on the economy,and society as a whole,

I can't honestly see 'failed' policy, tweekable, sure. No doubt in my mind, there's no will to make the policy succeed. Take for instance the recent discussion here. A huge crippling fine against a baker, and a revolving door at the border and prison for a 'nonviolent' druggie who graduated to murder. Is that a 'successful' policy, as to what happened to the baker? Depends on who you ask. The left says, too bad about the murder, but revolving doors are good.

We are a whole bunch bigger than most developed countries, and no, visiting prisons is not at all like wondering why the place filled with straight laced executives who got caught with a joint at a party. Which country should we pattern after? 60 to 70 bil. a year, by any stretch of the imagination, that's a drop in the bucket, a true bargain the way these folks print, borrow and squander money. 'They' print around that amount each month and at times quite a bit more.

Why not two parts. First treat it like speeding tickets, the worst the offense the higher the fine, and push it too far and you get arrested. You can't say there's more important police work to do, speed traps are a basic business model of most forces.

Second, add a big surcharge on their medical insurance, so that their 'risk' group covers their expenses. 'Rehab' is high maintenance and expense, I don't think it's the equivalent of a poor single mom taking her crippled kid in for necessary surgery. It's not a big deal, but you really didn't seem to warm up to the thought of teaching a guy how to run a mill in your shop, when you saw him light up just before he knocked on the door for his first lesson.

Caitlyn SKB is whining about the failed war on drugs, but he won't say a word about his leader Obama removing virtually all defenses along our Southern Border. Gee, I wonder how those drug cartels are getting much those drugs in here? Of the 20-some million illegals in this country, how many do you suppose were mules?

Mark,
this years tax revenue has already surpassed all of last year and set records.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/colorado-pot-tax-schools-hits-171816590.html

Craig,
I see us having the highest incarceration rate in the world as a failure. We lock people up at a rate of 4 times as often as Europe. Something is not right in that equation. I find it interesting your are able to dismiss 60 Billion in annual expenses so very easily, not something I would expect from a fiscal conservative.

If I am going to be held liable then I do not want anyone running machinery in my shop under the influence of any substance legal or otherwise. One of the biggest drug related problems in this country is the abuse of prescription medication. I mention earlier loosing people close to me due to substance abuse. My close friend did not get hooked on the street corner but at his doctors office while trying to manage chronic pain. This is not an easy problem to fix nor do I think I have all the answers but I can objectively say current policy is a failure.

Where's the incentive to change anything when building and filling jails is becoming a largely privately-owned industry paid for by taxpayers?

It is worth remembering voters did all the legalizing directly via referendums. I very much doubt there is state where a legalization referendum will not get 51% of the vote. It will be difficult for the GOP to win a Presidential election without carrying Colorado...

Prediction: Madam President and more ammo shortages. You can thank the social conservatives for it.

steve i dont care what adults do i just worry about the unintended consequence .we have laws people break them and have to suffer because of there actions. a low level drug addict illegal deported several time is a murderer now how many times will this repeat itself.im sure if the people that abuse prescription drugs would abuse what ever is easy to get.ryanf,i think you are incorrect and i hope the novelty wears off not every state is transplanted Californians.and some will reject the legalization of pot.

I wonder if our closet Libtard RyanF feels the same about all of those states where a majority of voters shot down gay marriage when it was put on the ballot? It even failed in Kalifornia. No rainbow State House until some Liberals on the Court overruled the voters.

Do you think all of those people who voted against queers getting married, when they had the chance to vote on it, were all staunch conservative Republicans?

Hey RyanF, we know you pee standing up, because that's what you tell us from your seated position, but what do you think of the latest scandal from Planned Parenthood?