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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
Why don't we just keep this thread non political. It represents the best in our community. Have whatever political opinions you wish, just not here. Well, just an idea...Geo


I couldn't agree more. Especially in this thread. Thanks for speaking up.


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That and leading with one's chin with ad hominem attacks in signature lines....

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I couldn't agree more...liberals need to puff their chests out too.

And Stan...I realized it was humor.

I just hope you're not gullible enough to think every photo you see on the internet is real. I'm betting at least one in this thread is staged.

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I have a question for you guys that shoot damascus and laminated barreled double guns. What do you use for ammo, store bought or hand loads? I have an AJ Aubrey with laminated barrels and I'm taking on my first ever hunt at the end of the month. I've shot 1 ounce #8 winchester target loads through it and it liked those just fine but for longer ranged shots at pheasants and chuckers I need something with a heavier punch. Any suggestions?
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Best pheasant load I use with dogs is an RST 1oz. of #5.

Doesn't shred the close one's, and plenty of pellet energy for the longer shots.


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Originally Posted By: Dave Myrick
I have a question for you guys that shoot damascus and laminated barreled double guns. What do you use for ammo, store bought or hand loads? I have an AJ Aubrey with laminated barrels and I'm taking on my first ever hunt at the end of the month. I've shot 1 ounce #8 winchester target loads through it and it liked those just fine but for longer ranged shots at pheasants and chuckers I need something with a heavier punch. Any suggestions?
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Welcome to the site.

I don't have a Damascus/laminated gun but I can summarize for you what I've read on this site written many times over by the experts who do: low pressure and low recoil loads are the way to go. Low pressure b/c the barrels might be thinner than you think. (You did have the barrel wall thickness checked, right?) Low recoil b/c the wood is old and should be assumed to be weaker than it was originally. If you want to buy factory loads, the first suggestion would be RST, the second Gamebore.

Low pressure/low recoil loads that you roll yourself, there are plenty of them out there.

Appropriate shot size for pheasant and chukars is a topic guaranteed to produce 100 responses every time, each and every one of them correct, but you'll have a hard time going wrong with #5 and #6. I prefer #6 in both barrels of my 16ga and one each #4 and #6 in my 12. YMMV.

An ounce of #6, on target, will stop any early-season pheasant within reasonable range - 30-35 yards. You don't need a roman candle to down a cockbird.

I'd be inclined to warn you against using factory target loads in an old gun because those are loaded close to maximum pressure and throw a good bit of recoil. They're made so the generic autoloader that gets cleaned once in a blue moon will cycle reliably. There may be low-recoil/low-pressure factory target loads out there, but they'll be marked and priced as such.

The guys who really know the answers can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I'm not.


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Hi all, well today was our pheasant opener, it turned out to be a good one. It was hot however, in the upper 80's, but the wind made it a bit more comfortable. Still hot for us and the dog. There were a lot of birds and hunters as well. It took longer to limit than I thought, but still it was a great time. Went with my son Will, he managed two and a grouse. He was not up to snuff, a roll of barbed wire fell on his foot yesterday, so he kind of ended the hunt early.

Anyway, here's my birds and my 12b Purdey:



Will and his birds, he was using his 20ga BSS/S:



Raina hauling a bird to the pile (she worked well today, she's progressing with each hunt):



And the days tally:



We'll see what tomorrow brings!

Best!

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Front came through this morning bringing 1.4" rain and stopped peanut digging, soooooo ................ had to drop back and punt.

One more limit for the SPII Sporting 20 ga.



For those of you who know doves, look at how many of the 15 are juvenile birds. Unbelievable for mid-October. We have had a grand year for doves and quail to raise. Saw a half grown brood of wild bobs just about an hour ago.

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After the dove hunt we had fun with my 16 gauge damascus Samuel Buckley labeled Westley Richards. Black powder loads are really impressive at dusk.

Here my freind Sid lights one off!



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Back from a good trip to Northern Minnesota. This was just one of many good days.



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