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I really should have noted subgauge with the Nitro point. But, I was a 30 year old guy once upon a time, and THAT guy didn't care if it was a 12 or a 16 or a 20.
But, I do, now. Either I've evolved (doubtful!) or grown less resistant to gravity. Or, a little of both.

Not pretty, indeed. But, useful, humble, durable, relevent, and usable in the game. Beyond good value in pricing. Something honest in the use of a gun like that, but, I'm not poetic enough to spell it out in readable form.

I think it is OK to like good, and, not so great, doubles.

Thanks for pointing out the very correct notion that a subgauge is sweetest.

Best,
Ted

Thank you , Dewey, for taking the time to relate all that. More than I had hoped for, and appreciated. I will save it for future reference. Lots of stuff in there that I've never read from the "gun writers".

Much appreciated.

SRH

From Mr. Vicknair's business letter dated 1 January 2013 :

In closing, I would like to sincerely thank everyone for the opportunity to help preserve these great old guns.

After reading through the different design faults he listed here I ask Mr. Vicknair if still thinks they are great old guns?

Really? Well, I guess I've been put in my place. I have never produced anything worthwhile that was ridiculously easy.

SRH

Perhaps Mr Vicknair wrote that letter because as a business owner he has a little class and respect for his customers, those he was communicating to in that letter.

Class is something that is sorely lacking in just about every post I have ever read from you.

It's a social convention known as being polite.

It appears that there are at least a few on this board who, rather than take insight based upon almost 30 years of gunsmithing experience, for free, and educate themselves, would rather attempt to assassinate my credibility by trying to "catch me in a lie" or some other such nonsense.

I posted an unbiased assessment of the design of a specific gun.

If any are offended by that, that's their problem. If your personal identity is so closely tied to a few pieces of wood and metal that what I said upsets you, perhaps a change in the dosage of your medication is in order.

Far too many on this board would rather be right (in their mind) than educated (in actuality).

Hey Gunut, I saw your post before you deleted it. Have we had any professional dealings? Care to post your actual name so that I know never to deal with you? If you prefer to hide behind your username I understand.

thought it over and decided that I really don't care if a smith likes a particular type of gun or not, as long as he is reasonable in his pricing and proficient in his repairs....

There in that statement you have it.
Designed to get around a patent.
I live in Australia & here we have almost one of everything from anywhere imported to fill the needs of the growing market from 1788 onwards.
One of my interests is antique stationary engines & these were made in the millions the world over to fill a hungry market that wanted them NOW. The manufacturers came up with all sorts of devious devices to do carburation, injection, ignition, every one different just to get around patents & get a product into production & onto the the market.
Were each one of these devious devices the best thing since sliced bread ? No.
Did they do the job ? Yes.
They put the product on the market to serve & work for the consumer at a price they could afford & that the manufacturer made a profit on. Thereby they all made a living.
I love to see the ingenuity of design that this situation created.

We all know that if we took all the best design features of every shotgun, car, stationary engine or bike that we would have a very good bit of gear. This is why some of us do vehicle modifications & mix & match parts to build a hot rod.
Just remember that the manufacturers of our old gear did not have this same liberty.
O.M.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and what gun they desire. The ultimate test of a gun is whether you hit consistently with it.