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Today's rifles have better, more uniform metalurgy, CNC machining, adn are bedded better, hence better repeatability. Most popular, modern centerfires will shoot MOA out of the box. You couldn't say that about most old M70's.

Regarding Redfield - they are out of business. For my money, Leupold is the only way to go

.220" or ragged hole, it's the same thing, except that my ammo is cheaper. It really doesn't matter what gun you shoot, as long as you like it. I like old ones. My old 1922 Springfield is going to be shooting ragged holes long after I'm gone, but then so is your Kimber.

Old fashion elbow grease, and a stiff wire brush has taken the life out of many older barrels.
My Kimber has seen nothing but a cotton patch from the first cleaning on.
I've shot a number of older model Anschutz rifles, who's barrels were so spotless, they couldn't hit the birdbath in the garden at fifty.

You obviously were not the previous owner of my Savage-imported barrel-banded Anschutz 54 Sporter!

I too have a mighty accurate Savage/anschutz, complete with a fully adjustable trigger. That lil thing shoots a damn sight better than I do. Oh, add me to the group preffering the G&H on a pre '64 to a Dakota....I dont have to think long about that one.
Steve

Actually it's oxide from surface of Al rods. Those breakdown ones with joints are the worst culprits.
I will try to drop by tomorrow and get that # off the barrel. If I don't get the rifle I can always use couple packs of 350gr loads for my .375.

So Herr Jagd Fuhrer, if I could digress back to the original question - If you can get your hands on a real G&H for the price you quoted, I would urge you to do it. I will certainly agree that the average out of the box, plastic stocked Savage will shoot with more consistency than most earlier rifles of any make. Likewise, a Super Black Eagle is a better killing machine than any double I can think of. But I really do not care. Neither it nor the the plastic stocked rifle has much of a soul. I suspect just a touch of our own imortality is tied up in the souls of those others who built and used these older weapons that so many of us on this board have learned to appreciate. Take that 7mm out and take a moose with it this fall, and you have added to the story it represents. Give it to a son or nephew two decades from now and that hunt will live with him. Take out that Savage, and you killed a moose.

And you are right. Treat it to a worthy piece of glass.

I had high hopes for Wolf with my new barrel because it's something I can get up here, plus reasonable priced but no luck. One thing about a .22 is you have to pay for the accuracy. Remington-Eley black box $11.50 and RWS R-50 $16 a box.

I think it will go for $3200 cash. Lets remember it's first week of June.

...and the best for last, Eley Tenex @ 18.00 per box.
If you can't wring out the best with these, you need a different rifle.