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I have a 21 16 gauge skeet and a 20 gauge field and they are good shooters. Bobby

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good.. as in pattern well, swing well, balance well?


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My 20 gauge Mod. 21 Skeet is a custom gun by Roy Vail. It is a 26 inch, pistol grip, single trigger gun with a beavertail forend, and the chokes are WS 1 and WS 2. The gun weighs 6 pds. 11 ozs. and the LOP is 13 1/2 inches to a checkered butt. I've had lighter 20 gauges, but prefer the Mod 21 because most of my 12 gauge guns are in the 6 1/2 to 7 pound range, and when I switch guns and gauges, I like the fact that the the similar weight helps my shooting.

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Here's a set of "working" Skeet guns.
12 gauge WS1/WS2
16 gauge WS1/WS2
20 gauge IC/WS2 (Skeet In / Skeet Out)


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"Why not just order what you want from CSMC?" Personally, I don't think the CSMC replicas will ever attain anywhere near the collector value of an original Winchester Model 21. I would never consider a CSMC replica as an investment grade gun. Only if I could buy one for a MUCH cheaper price than an original, would I ever consider one. However, that is unlikely because CSMC has priced their replicas in the stratosphere.


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i like kicking tires on old cars.
not new cars made to look like old cars.


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Do you hunt?
What do you use if you do?
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Originally Posted By: buzz
"Why not just order what you want from CSMC?" Personally, I don't think the CSMC replicas will ever attain anywhere near the collector value of an original Winchester Model 21. I would never consider a CSMC replica as an investment grade gun. Only if I could buy one for a MUCH cheaper price than an original, would I ever consider one. However, that is unlikely because CSMC has priced their replicas in the stratosphere.


I've heard this crap 'ad nauseam'.
The Model 21 being currently produced by CSMC is as much if not more a Winchester Model 21 than a C7 Corvette is a replica!
Whose discussing investments?
If you consider everything in life that you purchase an 'investment', so be it, but I purchase what I want in life and use it.
I'm fed up with 'experts', 'collectors' and whatever, pronouncing that it ain't a collectable or worth what I paid for it!
I drive new Porsche's because they are so much better than older models, that there is not even any comparison possible!
CSMC Model 21's are as good if not better than any Winchster Model 21 ever made.
The only area for discussion is engravers because certain engraver's have passed but there are new engraver's just as talented to be had.
And you can get a 'Baby' frame Model 21 in a weight suitable for a light upland gun, that Winchester never made.
I'll put my CSMC 'Baby Frame' 28 gauge Grand American up against ANY Winchester Model 21 ever made.
The price when compared to any bespoke gun anywhere in the world today is actually comparable and in a few cases actually looks reasonable.
So when someone mentions CSMC and Winchester Model 21, let's lose this attitude!
So if you want what you want, order a CSMC.
If you want what the 'experts; will tell you to want, find a Winchester Model 21 that is just right for you.-
Richard
BTW I have a CSMC bespoke Fox 16 gauge DE Special that's better made and engraved than ANY Fox DE I have ever had in my hands.

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Originally Posted By: bobski
i like kicking tires on old cars.
not new cars made to look like old cars.


I got tired of 'kicking tires on old cars' about 20 years ago.
I got tired of individuals telling me what to like.
I got tired of individuals trying to sell me old junk.
I decided to have what I wanted made for me, new.
So, other than my initial Post in this Thread, I can't help you anymore.-Richard

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Originally Posted By: Dick_dup1
Originally Posted By: bobski
i like kicking tires on old cars.
not new cars made to look like old cars.


I got tired of 'kicking tires on old cars' about 20 years ago.
I got tired of individuals telling me what to like.
I got tired of individuals trying to sell me old junk.
I decided to have what I wanted made for me, new.
So, other than my initial Post in this Thread, I can't help you anymore.-Richard


I will second that, in matters of taste there can be no dispute. Personal preference is just that.


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