March
S M T W T F S
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
Who's Online Now
2 members (SKB, smlekid), 295 guests, and 2 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics38,373
Posts543,977
Members14,389
Most Online1,131
Jan 21st, 2024
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#433939 01/24/16 11:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 282
Sidelock
OP Offline
Sidelock

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 282
I'm sure this has been covered before, but what are the differences between All weather, alaskan and all american rifle scopes? Thanks

Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 20
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 20
The first Alaskan's had adjustments that were open to the elements, then they added screw on caps "all weather" to protect the adjustments. The "all weather" markings were also found
on the Lyman Challengers, and I believe, though I don't have one, on the Wolverines. The All-Americans came later, and the perma-center All-Americans had centered reticles. Nick Strobel's book on scopes and sights is a great reference.

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 53
Sidelock
Offline
Sidelock

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 53
I have two of the Lyman scopes mentioned. Both are the Perma center All American type. One is a 6x which I have had for years. The newer of the two is a 10x with an adjustable objective. I've used the 6x for load developement on two lever actiona 357 marlin and a44mag marlin. Think that these scopes are way underrated. Good optics,good adjustments for elevation and windage. The 10x is going on my Canadian BSA 22 martini when I finish with the wood. Frank

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,126
Likes: 1126
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,126
Likes: 1126
I have a Lyman 25X LWBR scope that I picked up in a pawn shop many years ago. Some dummy had bought it and put it on a deer rifle and wasn't satisfied with it. Duh! It now resides on an old Husqvarna Mauser .220 Swift that I use to aggravate crows occasionally. The scope is in excellent condition, with fine threaded screw-on lens caps. Anyone know about when they discontinued this scope?

Thanks, SRH


May God bless America and those who defend her.
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 20
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 20
According to Nick Stroebel's book the Lyman 25x LWBR was in production from 1976 to 1985

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 48
Sidelock
Offline
Sidelock

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 48
Alaskans have 7/8" tubes.

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,126
Likes: 1126
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,126
Likes: 1126
Thanks, Doc. It wasn't but a few years old when I bought it, it seems. No wonder it's in such good shape.

SRH


May God bless America and those who defend her.
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 601
Likes: 39
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 601
Likes: 39
As mentioned previously the Lyman Alaskan scopes were 7/8" tube scopes & were only offered in 2 1/2 power. The later ones (& the one I have) have screw on turret caps & are marked "All-Weather". They were offered both with & W/O internal adjustments & the internal adjustments were not permanently centered.

Leupold offered a 7/8" tube scope similar in appearance to the Lyman Alaskan but with permanently centered internal adjustments in 2 1/2, 4 & 6 power called the Leupold Alaskan for about 2 years around 1999 & then discontinued them.

Lyman followed up the Alaskan with the Challenger in the early 1950's. The Challenger was a 4 power 26 MM tube scope with steel main tube & alloy ocular & objective bells & internal adjustments that were not permanently centered. The 4 power Challenger I have is also marked "ALL-WEATHER" in the same script as the Alaskan. The Challenger looks like an Alaskan on "steroids".

I never had a Wolverine but if I remember correctly they were higher powered versions of the Challenger in (I think) 6x & 8x

The All-American was introduced around 1958 and was based on a 1" alloy tube. The earliest ones did not have a permanently centered reticle but that was added early on as the Lyman "Perma Center" reticle. None of the All-American's I have owned carried the "ALL-WEATHER logo. I've used All-Americans from 3x to 10x over the years & I always thought they were excellent scopes optically & with better adjustments than most others. I still have and use a couple of 4x & a couple of 10x models.

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 128
Likes: 2
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 128
Likes: 2
Actually the Leupold Alaskan was made 1989-1990. It's a great looking scope to put modern, high quality optics on a vintage gun.


Shane Robinson
Joplin, MO
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 601
Likes: 39
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 601
Likes: 39
Flygas,

Thanks for the correction on the Leupold Alaskan scopes (I was only off by 10 years). I agree, they are very nice scopes & it's a shame they weren't better received by the market. I wish I had bought a few back when they were more available. They now bring a good price when you can find them. Recently there was a NIB 4X & a 6X for sale on E-Bay.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard

doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2024 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.0.33-0+deb9u11+hw1 Page Time: 0.087s Queries: 35 (0.060s) Memory: 0.8464 MB (Peak: 1.8988 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-03-28 10:39:24 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS