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There is Gucci, Prada, Armani,......., and when the Romans had an empire the English had ......? Simply put, English culture is overrated in America. Anglo things represent "stale" boredom to me, and I'n not ready for the grave just yet.

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Since someone brought cars and other "bests" into this, I will have to go with the 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO for my Best Euro car, 2007 Ford GT for Best American car, 2007 GMC for Best pick-me-up truck, a H&H 20g Royal, and finally ... drumroll please ... Paris Hilton for Best drama queen.

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CH - you will have to retract that last statement!! PH has announced that she is going to quit playing dubm!

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when the Romans had an empire the English had ... mud huts and blue paint.

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And when the Greeks had an empire, the Romans (if you care to call them that) had mud huts, but weren't yet up to blue paint. This goes on back a ways,too.

So, how come Egyptians/Hittites/Persian/Greeks/Romans/Arabs/Europeans didn't keep going with their empires?

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Will those Italian Shotguns ever talk...

http://www.traphof.org/roadtoyesterday/february-2005-.htm

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I had a nice "car chat" this weekend with a shooting buddy who also is a Ferrari restorer, owner, and who has maintained large personal collections of Ferraris in this area. Yes, they are out there, not just in Southern California and Dubai. The $3000 tuneup estimate mentioned earlier is apparently for bottom feeders according to my friend. How front engine Ferraris are kept in proper running condition is beyond my comprehension. When this gentleman and I first met on the skeet competition circuit, he was shooting a tubed Model 96 Japanese Winchester and occasionally driving a front engine F car to the shoots. He and his clients would get a chuckle from this thread.

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It was a good thing then, when "The Lord Protector" died in September of 1658, which caused parliment to restore the monarchy, and invite King Charles II back to merry England from exile in France. Because, Charlie had developed a love and knack for wingshooting while in exile, using French flintlock fowling pieces which were, at the time, LIGHT YEARS ahead of anything the English had at the time-the English usually shot birds on the ground, and usually missed them with their clunky frontstuffers.
Had it not been for the two French flintlocks coming back to England, I bet things would be far, far different today-look how long English makers stuck with muzzleloaders after everyone else went to breechloaders.
Any of you guys who crow about English guns have to keep in mind-they did it the same way Japanese did it with cars, by copying something else that was better than what they had.
Look it up.
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Should you call it copying or improving.

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I love that Ted! The english were the original Japanese!
And Lowell..There is hundreds of coffee table books on harleys and Old Mustangs..hmmmm....

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