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Many thanks there Betail Sauvage. Léopold Bernard then may have set the tone for other tube sources like Kilby, Sauer, etc. where the upper rung metals were always sold in serialized sets. So 1000 tubesets & I wonder what type attrition thru the years would result in a residual number now beings a % of the 1000 gross?

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Hi, BillK. E-mail me at drockerman100@gmail.com and we can continue this discussion.

Yes, it is a model I developed for my own edification in values. Brit and Continental gun values seemed a jumble to me. After my research, I found the model gives a pretty fair estimate of auction prices. I am happy to share for personal use.

The three factors define five sheets of 9 by 9 matrices (405 pigeon holes of value). Once you assign the three factors, you look up a value in the 5 sheets. You can also reverse engineer the value by looking up similar "ask" prices and seeing if the factors indicated make sense.

Use of the charts will sorta "jump-start" your intuitive valuation sense --- at least it did for me.

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Hi Raimey,
Who knows how many of those are still around?
Considering the 20th Century turmoils, I would not be surprised if less than 10% of the fare was still around. Probably much less, actually...

I don't recall having ever seen an LB stamp on a single barrel...
It does not mean that the shop did not sell those as individual tubes to the trade, but I sincerely doubt it as high ends makers tend to like to capture all the value they can.
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WC:

And me thinks that there was more success in offering knitted tubesets with regard to liability, where a tube may be compromised when improperly joined, if peddled in singles.

Have you the Léopold Bernard ledger?

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I sure wish I had access to the ledgers.
My data is based on the forensics (i.e guns).
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Empirical eh? If any one possessed it, I would have thought it to be you.

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The Gastinne-Renette is on the UPS truck and should arrive on Friday. I can't wait to open the box and find out if I got another 16 gauge or 20 gauge. By then it would be almost 2 weeks since the auction took place. Patience is wearing out!!
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I finally took possession of the Gastinne-Renette shotgun.
Just as what many of you thought, it is actually a 20 gauge and not a 16 gauge as advertised by the auction house. The gun is in very good condition. There is a bit of rust underneath the action, on the trigger guard and on the barrels. Inside the bores are mirror bright. It locks very solid. The gun weights 5lbs.10oz. The stock has a small wooded extension, which was visible in the original pics, but can be seen better in these ones. LOP is 14.00", which I would have to extend to 14.50" to fit me. Here are some additional pics. The only concern is that the chambers are 65 long, which means I would have to purchase shells from RST, or set up a reloader for shorter shells. Let me know your thoughts. BillK











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Holy smokes, just look at the quality of that checkering on that gun.

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