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Perhaps it just I that is confused which is not unusual. The link above is to a non-firing salesmans sample but I get the impression from eightbore that the one just sold on ebay will be finished into a working gun. What's the deal here? Jim
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The pictures of the gun recently sold do not tell much in the way of details. Some cutaways can be shot, some can't. Many of the Cody cutaways are way too cut up to shoot. The Rock Island gun does not have enough wood purchase to shoot, but could probably be shot with a new stock and new barrels. That should only cost about three grand. I will know more in a week or two.
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Thanks for the explanation eightbore. This sounds like an interesting project. Jim
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A friend has a Fox cutaway that is fully functional and could be shot with a set of barrels and a new stock.
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The Model 21 collector market must have hit rock bottom. That #40 sold for $3162.50 buyer's premium included. By the way, I examined the ebay gun today. It is serial number 150, marked only on the forend wood. The gun apparently displays the experimental (I assume) snap off forend. I put a set of non ejector barrels on the cutaway and the snap off forend works great. I guess it was a proposed cost saving measure that Olin did not approve for his new gun. I guess he thought it would be too much like a Trojan or a Sterlingworth. The receiver is cut away on both sides, all parts are operational, it fires, cocks, and extracts. It may have had a straight grip stock on it at one time because the pistol grip trigger guard has been straightened.
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I was mistaken about the trigger guard being straightened. The trigger guard on the early "canoe paddle" stocks were straight, unlike later pistol grips trigger guards. This particular gun does not seem to have ever had barrels or stock installed because there is absolutely no wear marking on any part of the bearing surfaces and no sign that the floorplate screw was ever touched. The gun has a small, almost invisible, milling error in the water table that would have made this receiver eligible for use as a cutaway. It would not have made the final inspection with this little defect. It is my understanding that Winchester made the 21 for a short time before introducing the single trigger option. At serial #150, this cutaway could have been made to study the new trigger as well as the unique snap off forend.
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OK, thanks to Stan's instructions, I was able to access this old thread discussing the Model 21 cutaway I purchased in July of 2010. It is now cased and has a wonderful mint early buttstock thanks to poster Lenard Lemke. I still haven't found a set of non ejector barrels.
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OK, thanks to Stan's instructions, I was able to access this old thread discussing the Model 21 cutaway I purchased in July of 2010. It is now cased and has a wonderful mint early buttstock thanks to poster Lenard Lemke. I still haven't found a set of non ejector barrels. Pictures please!-Dick
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