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#433939 01/24/16 10:36 PM
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I'm sure this has been covered before, but what are the differences between All weather, alaskan and all american rifle scopes? Thanks

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The first Alaskan's had adjustments that were open to the elements, then they added screw on caps "all weather" to protect the adjustments. The "all weather" markings were also found
on the Lyman Challengers, and I believe, though I don't have one, on the Wolverines. The All-Americans came later, and the perma-center All-Americans had centered reticles. Nick Strobel's book on scopes and sights is a great reference.

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I have two of the Lyman scopes mentioned. Both are the Perma center All American type. One is a 6x which I have had for years. The newer of the two is a 10x with an adjustable objective. I've used the 6x for load developement on two lever actiona 357 marlin and a44mag marlin. Think that these scopes are way underrated. Good optics,good adjustments for elevation and windage. The 10x is going on my Canadian BSA 22 martini when I finish with the wood. Frank

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I have a Lyman 25X LWBR scope that I picked up in a pawn shop many years ago. Some dummy had bought it and put it on a deer rifle and wasn't satisfied with it. Duh! It now resides on an old Husqvarna Mauser .220 Swift that I use to aggravate crows occasionally. The scope is in excellent condition, with fine threaded screw-on lens caps. Anyone know about when they discontinued this scope?

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According to Nick Stroebel's book the Lyman 25x LWBR was in production from 1976 to 1985

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Alaskans have 7/8" tubes.

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Thanks, Doc. It wasn't but a few years old when I bought it, it seems. No wonder it's in such good shape.

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As mentioned previously the Lyman Alaskan scopes were 7/8" tube scopes & were only offered in 2 1/2 power. The later ones (& the one I have) have screw on turret caps & are marked "All-Weather". They were offered both with & W/O internal adjustments & the internal adjustments were not permanently centered.

Leupold offered a 7/8" tube scope similar in appearance to the Lyman Alaskan but with permanently centered internal adjustments in 2 1/2, 4 & 6 power called the Leupold Alaskan for about 2 years around 1999 & then discontinued them.

Lyman followed up the Alaskan with the Challenger in the early 1950's. The Challenger was a 4 power 26 MM tube scope with steel main tube & alloy ocular & objective bells & internal adjustments that were not permanently centered. The 4 power Challenger I have is also marked "ALL-WEATHER" in the same script as the Alaskan. The Challenger looks like an Alaskan on "steroids".

I never had a Wolverine but if I remember correctly they were higher powered versions of the Challenger in (I think) 6x & 8x

The All-American was introduced around 1958 and was based on a 1" alloy tube. The earliest ones did not have a permanently centered reticle but that was added early on as the Lyman "Perma Center" reticle. None of the All-American's I have owned carried the "ALL-WEATHER logo. I've used All-Americans from 3x to 10x over the years & I always thought they were excellent scopes optically & with better adjustments than most others. I still have and use a couple of 4x & a couple of 10x models.

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Actually the Leupold Alaskan was made 1989-1990. It's a great looking scope to put modern, high quality optics on a vintage gun.


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Flygas,

Thanks for the correction on the Leupold Alaskan scopes (I was only off by 10 years). I agree, they are very nice scopes & it's a shame they weren't better received by the market. I wish I had bought a few back when they were more available. They now bring a good price when you can find them. Recently there was a NIB 4X & a 6X for sale on E-Bay.

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