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"The braying of this donkey is tasteless..."
I've taken the liberty, sir, to rework your statement. Try something such as this next time...The rough and vulgar discourse of this person...
Gentleman...does not apply here.
Make mine a twenty.
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I have been a member of the 16ga society since April of 2007 about a year after I bought my first 16ga shotgun. Prior to joining, I was frustrated with the available ammunition and the poor quality of hulls. The society’s members enlightened me on everything 16ga. A 16ga built on a 12ga frame has no advantage, but a scaled 16ga and for me, especially a SxS with a straight grip, splinter forend and double triggers is the ideal upland bird gun. My frustration with new 16ga ammo and poor quality hulls is now a thing of the past because I load RMC brass hulls. Outstanding patterns and the hulls longevity will allow me to pass them along with my guns to my heirs.   Beautiful gun Wyobirds, Spaniard? 
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treblig1958, Thank you. My 16 is a #2 AyA, weighing 6 lb, 2 oz. choked Imp. Cyl. and Mod.
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Geez! How did my post inquiring about the “Status of the 16 Gauge Society” degenerate into some of the rude and insulting comments I have read? We need some civility here. There is nothing wrong with anyone extolling the virtues of their favorite gauge or gunmaker for that matter. I am not sure why some members feel threatened by this humorous advocacy. This is all about having fun and enjoying shooting, hunting, and discussing our great shotguns. Most of the responses are fine but a few individuals should exhibit enough sense to leave their bad attitudes and negative comments at home.
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One last retort, lads. Today, whilst awaiting my EKG, I read a 2013 Field and Stream, and the shotgunning section was one of the better by Messr. Bourjaily- A solid comparison between- 12 gauge 3 and 3.5" magnums, of interest to waterfowlers I should guess- and even a 20 versus 3" .410, looking into recoil and shot performance and patterning at 30 yards- apparently the "midget gauge" .410 bore is usually handicapped at 25 yards, whereas the 28, 20 and 12 are pattern tested at 40 yards- why so, you tell me. How-Some-Ever, note the absence of both the 16 gauge and any attempt by Mr. B to compare it to another gauge, and to be fair, he also excluded the 10 gauge. Very well presented- and the solid absence of the "bastard" gauge here is quite telling to me.
I will quote Paul A. Curtis- 1934 Penn Publishing- Guns and Gunning- pages 156-157: "There is little to be said about the 16. It is a delightful gun to shoot but as a rule, the ammunition is not so well distributed as the 20, and it has always seemed to me that as the gun (16) is but slightly lighter than a 12, and but little more powerful than the 20, it was in a rather unhappy position between the two, which were certain to be more popular" Further down page 156, my gunning guru of the Limey school discusses the "midget" gauge- the .410-- The Winchester co. to bring out a 3 inch shell holding 3/4 ounce of shot--- whilst this monstrosity is equal in the weight of shot charge to the light 20 bore, it should not be supposed that it is equally efficient. It is simply a freak and not built on sound ballistic principles.-- Paul later discusses the 28 gauge (I do have one of those- a 1939 era Model 12- with a 28" solid ribbed WS-2 choked barrel)Here are his words on the 28-- "It is unfortunate that our sportsmen and manufacturers overlooked the 28 bore, which is a much more serviceable weapon with the same charge"--
The 16 gauge does have a solid place in Limey gunning history- the Edwardian Era- when Queen "Vicky"'s son, Prince Edward, who was one of the principals in developing the art and science of driven bird shooting, often shot a pair of Purdey guns in 16 bore-his special order- to keep his invited guests from bumming the expected 12 bore shells from his shell bags-apparently "Tum-Tum" was a bit "tight-fisted"--Noblese oblige non withstanding--
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Geez! How did my post inquiring about the “Status of the 16 Gauge Society” degenerate into some of the rude and insulting comments I have read? We need some civility here. There is nothing wrong with anyone extolling the virtues of their favorite gauge or gunmaker for that matter. I am not sure why some members feel threatened by this humorous advocacy. This is all about having fun and enjoying shooting, hunting, and discussing our great shotguns. Most of the responses are fine but a few individuals should exhibit enough sense to leave their bad attitudes and negative comments at home. I have to agree with you on this one. I also belong to the 16ga Forum, a very civil and helpful board. Another good board is the Upland Journal. This board has really gone to hell in the past few months. Still there are some very good people here who are willing to help and contribute good advise to others. Best! Greg
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It would be great to see a thread started here with pictures of nothing but 16ga's.
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Geez! How did my post inquiring about the “Status of the 16 Gauge Society” degenerate into some of the rude and insulting comments I have read? We need some civility here. There is nothing wrong with anyone extolling the virtues of their favorite gauge or gunmaker for that matter. I am not sure why some members feel threatened by this humorous advocacy. This is all about having fun and enjoying shooting, hunting, and discussing our great shotguns. Most of the responses are fine but a few individuals should exhibit enough sense to leave their bad attitudes and negative comments at home. I have to agree with you on this one. I also belong to the 16ga Forum, a very civil and helpful board. Another good board is the Upland Journal. This board has really gone to hell in the past few months. Still there are some very good people here who are willing to help and contribute good advise to others. Best! Greg And we haven't even started to talk about the politics of the 16ga. yet...  And the before the cabal usurps it for their own nefarious purposes, I am proud to be a 16ga-tard!
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For all that, Fox, no one ever said British and European shooters aren't discriminating in their choice of shotguns---and the 16 is right up there. Bourjaily's article comparing 3- and 3.5-inch magnums would appear as nutty over there, as it is in Atlantic Canada. We see them rarely in the hands of experienced waterfowlers. In my view, "solid absence of the bastard gauge here" says more about a bigger-is-better mentality than the gauge.
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I really appreciate the 16 Ga Society site. I've been a member since 1/2002. Good folks, good messages. Support it!
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