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Initial attempt at identify Markers and # of guns produced per year



I'm going to go out on a limb and make some more guesses. The lease dates of 12 Middle Row and 316 High Holborn are now known and based on that, I've speculated that any Reilly with "Holborn Bars" is pre-1835. Re Oxford Street, In view of those two guns with labels saying "removed from Holborn" (8463 and 8568) I believe it is entirely possibly that indeed EM Riley began his serial number chronology at around number 8,400 when they moved in 1847 to Oxford Street. So taking this as a given (and it may not be) here is the approximate number of serial numbered guns he made per year, based on 7 serial numbers that I feel comfortable can be firmly dated: From the below...it looks like Reilly was producing consistently over 600 serial numbered guns a year from at the latest 1860 (possibly much earlier given his publicity...perhaps from 1855 on) to 1898. This may have been his maximum capacity since it was pretty constant for 40 years.

SN -------- Date

162 -- 1814 - Year the Reilly opened his Jewelry store on 12 Middle Row, Holborn above the Bars - lease lasted till 1835) (this is known as Holborn Bars - see the woodcut.
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..to ------- to - Approximately 1,000 guns made over say 15 years from about 1820-1835 = about 75 numbered guns per year (speculation since there are so few data points)- this would match Joseph Manton's output of about 110 guns a year at the time) (he probably started small, then as he figured it out increased production and got progressively more into the gun trade and out of jewelry...logically you can expect him to have started with engraving some pieces of gentlemen friends and proceeding from there). There are four pistols amongst the earliest of Reilly's I've found; it's tempting to speculate that he started out making pistols....but perhaps pistols survive better that Rifles - they're not out in the rain shooting ducks and can more easily be stored away, even when antiquated.
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1024 - 1835 - Serial number with the first mention of 316 High Holborn; JC Reilly moved there in August 1835 per property and voting records and per an advertisement placed in a London Newspaper.)
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..to ------- to - (Approximately 2,200 guns made over 12 years - speculation since there are so few data points = about 190 numbered guns per year)
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3329 -- 1847 - Last SN with 316 HighHolborn. Reilly's vacated 316 and moved to 502 New Oxford Street in March 1847 per London property and voting records and an advertisement in a London Newspaper.

There apparently is about a 5000 serial number gap between the end of High Holborn and beginning of numbers from New Oxford Street.

8400 -- 1847 - Year the Reilly's moved to Oxford Street (The gun serial number is hypothetical - first Reilly I have found with the Oxford address is per above 8463))
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..to ------- to - (Approximately 3,600 guns made over 12 years = about 300 numbered guns per year)
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12079 - 1859 - Serial number with the first mention of 315 Oxford Street address opened in 1859 per an advertisement just found.
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..to ------- to - (Approximately 1,300 guns made over 3 years = about 440 numbered guns per year)
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13333 - 1862 - Serial number of a Green Patent gun almost certainly made in 1862
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..to ------- to - (Approximately 2,000 guns made over 5 years = about 440 numbered guns per year)
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15254 - 1868 - 1st serial number I can find with the Paris address which opened in late 1867 or early 1868
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..to ------- to - (Approximately 11,500 guns made over 18 years = about 640 numbered guns made per year.)
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26584 - 1886 - Closure of Paris address - Last known SN with the Paris address.
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..to ------- to - (Approximately 8,000 guns made over 12 years = about 650 numbered guns made per year.)
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34723 - 1898 - Closure of 16 Oxford Street. Last known SN with 16 Oxford Street on the Rib.
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..to ------- to - (Approximately 650 guns made over 5 years = about 130 numbered guns per year)
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35413 - 1903 - Closure of 277 Oxford street; first gun with 295 Oxford street on Rib.

So if you have a Reilly with SN., look at the above theoretical matrix...pick the nearest date...subtract or add number of guns per year estimated to be manufactured by Reilly during that period and you'll get a somewhat approximation of the date.

Note: Reilly did a lot more business than just numbered guns. Per above they sold guns and pistols made by others...they engraved...they were prestige...they sold used guns... well..they were businessmen.

J.C. Reilly apparently produced at least 3200 serial numbered guns from 1816 to 1847...about 110 a year on average, possibly including some of his pistols. This is only a guess since there are so few datapoints. It could be that the 1820's were only a beginning..maybe he built 50 a year? But he built his trade and by the time he was installed at High Holborn in 1835...in a very substantial building with a well-to-do clientele as detailed by Wyman, he was making considerably more per year. It's even possible that the last SN I have for a long gun 3329 is 1835 or thereabouts and he actually produced another 5,000 guns and put numbers on them in the next 12 years (300-400 per year)... certainly possible...but with no evidence (surviving guns with SN's and name/address) to support this.

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I've gone about as far as I can with mining the internet on EM and JC Reilly. I have a pretty good idea of what SN's were produced when from about 1848 through 1905.

I've also got about 30 guns in my database, beautiful work, which were posted by owners or auctioneers but with no serial numbers or other information, sometimes posted with photos. Would appreciate some additional information from the owners of these guns...as time permits, I'll post a database with SN "xxxxx" and links..

But the key question for me now is the production of numbered guns by JC Reilly at both Chancery Lane (Holborn Bars)(1820-35) and especially High Holborn (1835-47). There are 5000 missing serial numbers. I have two confirmed serial numbers from the period 1174 and 3329,. But I don't know if 3329 were made in 1835 or 1846.. So if anyone has a lead on more JC Reilly guns from the 1830's-40's - museums, collections, India - please let me know.

As it is...if you have a Reilly from pre 1835 (Holborn Bars) or one from 1835-47 (316 Holborn) or from the early days at Oxford street post 1847 (think SN 8400-9500)..Please post it. It might solve a mystery.

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Some amount of work and a great lot of information !.
I notice a couple of typos in your 'chronology' part as in 1872 Anson's Patent should read 3791 and 1877 A & D hammerless patent should read 1875.
Re missing serial numbers - it was quite common for gunmakers to use a 'block' of numbers and miss out quite a few thousand over a period. For example record books might start at 1000 instead of 1. Whether this was to appear to have greater production than the actual or to ddifferentiate between types or something is hard to know.

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Thanks...fixed. Will shortly post a list of Reilly's which were put on the net with no SN's...beautiful pictures if one is browsing.

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Here are some Reilly's which have been posted on the internet, by auction houses or individuals, with no serial numbers and often no address on the ribs Some of them are very beautiful guns and the links worth looking at if you have a moment on a rainy day. It's frustrating not to have some of the fundamental information on these guns (for a historian).

xxxxx - (1830-40’s?)
Address: J.C. REILLY, 316 HIGH HOLBORN STREET, LONDON
Description: 0 bore, percussion, muzzle loading shotgun; no visible serial number, circa 1845, with twist-iron 36in. re-browned barrels, the top-rib signed 'J.C. REILLY, 316 HIGH HOLBORN LONDON', bead fore-sight, scroll engraved rib-end at breech, scroll engraved 'plugs', engraved top-tang, borderline and scroll engraved bar-action locks signed 'REILLY', scroll engraved dolphin-headed hammers,
Comment: No photos.
https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/J-C-REILLY-LONDON/22392046/LotDetail.asp?lid=22392046

xxxxx - 1830’s?) (Pistol)
Address: Joseph Charles Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London.
Description: This .50 caliber pistol with a 10-inch octagonal barrel measures 15-inches in overall length. Wood ramrod with flared brass cap, brass section at rear unscrews exposing the worm. London proof marks. Platinum blowout plug on nipple drum. One barrel key with oval silver escutcheons. The brown Damascus finish slightly worn. Nicely grained walnut half-stock with bag grip and black horn forend cap; oval silver thumbpiece.
Comment: Pistol looks similar to 172, Reilly dueling pistols.
http://www.aaawt.com/html/firearms/f296.html

xxxx (1840’s?)
Address: JOSEPH CHARLES REILLY 316 HIGH HOLBORN LONDON
Description: A fine classical English iron mounted half stocked double barreled hunting gun c. 1840 by Joseph Charles Reilly with butt cap, trigger guard, and locks finely engraved with English scroll, c. 71 cm. long barrels in calibre c. 16,5 cm. marked on the strap JOSEPH CHARLES REILLY 316 HIGH HOLBORN LONDON.
Comment: Beautiful engraving with a classic Reilly stock..the markers are there very early. He made this gun. I want it.
https://www.barnebys.com/auctions/lot/32...charles-reilly/

xxxxx - (1853?); (very similar to 11651) (Reilly Enfield?)
Address: Reilly, Oxford Street, London.
Description. .577? Muzzle loading, percussion, rifle, with Enfield like sights. No details (Polish site)…
Comments: This might be a sporting Enfield. Patch box in butt. Beautiful work!! Very similar to 11651)
http://www.dobrybazar.sk/detail/predam-perkusnu-gulovnicu-reilly-new-oxford-street

xxxxx - (1860?) (very like 14115 & 15129)
Address: E.M REILLY & Co, NEW OXFORD STREET, LONDON
Description: 12 Bore pinfire hammergun; 32” barrels; non-rebounding locks. Circa 1860; underlever action.
Comments: Not sure when under levers began to be used…will look up the patent though this cold have been adde later.
http://www.gunseekers.co.uk/South-East-K...RGUN---4305.htm

xxxxx- (1863?)
Address: E.M REILLY (address not stated)
Description: English 1863 E.M.Reilly 12ga double barrel percussion shotgun in excellent working order. The actions are crisp and tight, the English walnut stock is in excellent shape and the gun is very nice overall. Good quality replacement ramrod, otherwise everything original. Also included is a letter from the Tower of London stating it's authenticity. It belonged to one family that migrated in the 1880s via sailing ship to America, then by wagon to Montana.
Comments: FANTASTIC story - makes you want to buy the gun. (there's that old adage - buy the gun, not the story) (Then again...from the looks it might be true).
http://www.armslist.com/posts/302292/ark...loading-shotgun

xxxxx - (post 1860)
Address: E.M.REILLY &Co. 502 & 315 OXFORD STREET LONDON
Description: Reilly browned 11 ga, .577 percussion S/S Cape Gun. 25" Damascus barrels. Bar action locks. Chequered wrist & fore-end with professionally repaired crack to wrist. Extensive engraving to locks, tang, triggerguard. Gun has a new set of replacement hammers which are still to be fitted.
Comment:
http://www.classicarms.co.za/default.php?ipkCat=41&sid=41

xxxxx (very similar to 13590)
Name: E.M. Reilly & Co. , London
Descriptions: Cal. 4 bore. (1.015 bore diameter, 1.120 groove diameter. Two groove). 26" Tapered octagon twist bbl is mounted with one standing leaf rear, and "certifiable antique elephant ivory" blade front sight. Top flat is engraved "E. M. Reilly & Co. London". Bottom flat is stamped with Birmingham black powder proof. Case hardened patent breech is engraved with large open scroll. Case hardened breech iron with integral fence is engraved with large shaded scroll. Large bar action lockplate is mounted with tall, round bodied, slightly serpentine hammer. Hammer and lockplate are engraved with more large open scroll. "E. M. Reilly & Co" is on front portion of plate. Trigger plate is mounted with germanic type double set triggers, and trigger must be set before lock can be cocked. Trigger guard with squared bow has shell finial, and is also scroll engraved. probably South African restocking
Comment: Terry Buffum collection.
http://www.lot-art.com/auction-lots/E-M-...-e_m-15.3-julia

xxxxx - (?)
Address: E. M. REILLY (address not mentioned/photographed)
Description: pin fire 12ga, by E. M. REILLY, Fastlock push and drop action, nicely browned Damascus barrels, good grade wood, genuine antique, no licence required
Comment:
http://www.gunstar.co.uk/e-m-reilly-co-side-by-side-pin-fire-12-bore-gauge-shotgun/Shotguns/803128

xxxxx - (1870?) (See 16607) (Reilly Snider)
Address: E.M. REILLY & Co, 502 NEW OXFORD St., LONON
Description: high quality breech-loading rifle was built by the London company, E.M.Reilly in about 1875, for shooting big game. The gun fires a massive .750 cartridge, enough
Comment: Sniders adopted in 1865 - Brit army officer bought their own for hunting to use issue ammo. this one has a lot bigger cartridge though. First Snider with a SN is 16607
http://www.brlsi.org/museum-collections/online-museum/weaponry/17486

xxxxx - (1870?) (See 16607) (Reilly-Snider)
Address: E.M. REILLY & Co, 502 NEW OXFORD St., LONON
Description: .577 Snider high quality breech-loading rifle was built by the London company, E.M.Reilly in about 1875, for shooting big game. The gun fires a massive .750 cartridge, enough
Comment: Sniders adopted in 1865. “The .577 Snider was the backbone of the Canadian Militia for decades.”
http://levergunscommunity.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46996

xxxxx - (1882-86)
Name: E.M. Reilly & Co., 277 Oxfort Street, London and Rue Scribe, Paris
Descriptions: I just added this nice EM Reilly to my gun safe the other day. A gent in Texas had it for sale. 28-inch barrels, hammers are non rebounding, perfect bores, nicely engraved on the action, rib, and sight leaves, Jones under lever and heel and toe plates. Should be fun to shoot and not too difficult to come up with an accurate loa
Comment: Frustrating; beautifully cased gun but no SN, no description in the post. the label can’t be made out from the photo. But this heavy bore rifle has the 277 address (1882 on) and the Paris address (before 1886). It looks remarkably like 23746 above.
http://www.calpappas.com/2014/05/double-rifles.html

xxxxx - (1875?)
Name: E.M. REILLY, (on case 502 OXFORD STREET, LONDON)
Description: E.M. Reilly 16 Bore muzzleloading rifle built for an Indian Maharajah.
Comment: Highly ornate case with brass inlay done in India.
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=4421.0

xxxxx - (1875-1890?) (Reilly Martini) (It’s possible Reilly quit putting Reilly SN’s on Martini’s shortly after making 17414)
Name: E.M. Reilly & Co, New Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris
Description: Martini action serial 10889. Danish gun. .450 cal bore (classic Martini-Henry), Black powder, Ely 3 1/4 Express.
Comment:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=270014&start=20

xxxxx - (1870’s?)
Name: E.M. Reilly & co, 502 New Oxford Street, London (case) (branch office at 315 Oxford Str, and Rue Scribe Paris. (features gold and silver medals won at the 1867 Paris fair)
Description: No description but from excellent photos looks to be a classic big bore double pin-fire.
Comment:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1737606353125407.1073741883.1690234751195901&type=3

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1328698-E-M-Reilly-amp-Co-Rifle

xxxxx - (1880’s?)
Name: Not mentioned.
Description: E.M.Reilly bar-in wood 12 bore with Whitworth steel barrels circa 1885 with 2 3/4" chambers,30" mod. and full and nitro proofed. It has a large capital "B" in 24 carat gold where the oval
Comment: This is Terry Lubinski’s gun…He could add more info including SN, and address on rib, etc.
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=191402&page=all

xxxxx - (1870’s-80’s?)
Name: E.M. Reilly & Co New Oxford Street London & Rue Scribe Paris
Description: Double barrel, percussion hammer gun. semi-pistol grip with case.
Comment: French web site.
http://fraysse.net/listings/carabine-exp...-coups-calibre/

xxxxx - (1880’s?)
Name: E.M. Reilly & Co., 277 Oxfort Street, London and Rue Scribe, Paris
Description: Looks like a big-bore double barrel rifle: “I just added this nice EM Reilly to my gun safe the other day. A gent in Texas had it for sale. 28-inch barrels, hammers are non rebounding, perfect bores, nicely engraved on the action, rib, and sight leaves, Jones under lever and heel and toe plates. Should be fun to shoot and not too difficult to come up with an accurate load.”
Comment:
http://www.calpappas.com/2014/05/double-rifles.html

xxxxx - (1880’s-90's?)
Name: E.M. Reilly
Description: E.M. Reilly 12 bore double gun w damascus barrels. Pics only with case. Text says the proof marks show it is "post 1891 but pre WWI" per the text.
Comment: Can’t read the case label but it looks like the classic 502, 315, Rue Scribe type of label. It so, it is likely a reprint because Rue Scribe closed in 1886.
http://www.calpappas.com/2014/05/double-rifles.html

xxxxx - (1880’s?)
Name: E.M.Reilly & Co with London & Paris
Descriptions: Cased Cape Gun; 12 bore 30" 174 Side by side damascus barrel + rifled in .577 express cal.
Comment: Nr. 169 in the New Zealand auction, Beautiful gun but frustrating lack of information. I’ve included it because of the below gun also with no SN but both the 16 Oxford Street (post 1882) and Rue Scribe (Pre 1886) dates. I have a feeling both guns belonged to the same owner and probably were purchased together.
http://gunauction.co.nz/catalogues/38.pdf

xxxxx - (1880’s?)
Name: E.M.Reilly & Co. 16 New Oxford Street London & Paris
Descriptions: New Zealand Double barrel muzzle loading?(in a break down rifle??), percussion, hammer gun; Damascus steel 27 1/2” 8 bore SxS rifles.
Comment: The description give me some problems. It sure looks like a pin-fire to me. But those address are significant…no photos. Item 197.
http://gunauction.co.nz/catalogues/39.pdf

xxxxx - (early 1880?’s)
Name: E.M. REILLY & CO OXFORD St.T LONDON (502 New Oxford Street, London on case label)
Description: Heavy, rifled, blued, round, 13 mm cal. barrel, checkered at the rib, signed "E.M. REILLY & CO OXFORD St.T LONDON", with adjustable rear-sight and foresight; backward spring lock, finely engraved with floral motifs, receiver and mounts en suite; a lever under the receiver; wooden stock checkered at the neck and palm rest, wooden fore-end. In a wooden case covered with linen and lined with blue cloth, some tools.
Comnent: Label on case may have the Paris address - not clear
http://www.czernys.auction.fr/_en/lot/a-cased-breech-loading-rifle-by-e-m-reilly-co-3111416

xxxxx - (1885?)
Name: EM REILLY, LONDON (NFI)
Description: BLNE, 2 1/2", 30" beautiful nitro proved Damascus choked Cyl/Full. 15" lightly figured wood to ebony butt plate. Action has gone grey with beaded lip fences and an elegant long top lever. 6 1/2lbs cased.
Comnent: Steel barrels, “modern” side plates.
http://www.hillrodandgun.com/archivepicture.php?id=12587

xxxxx - (mid 1880’s?)
Name: E. M. Reilly & Co. London marked, manufactured for Oaks & Co. Madres (India).
Description: Classic full side lock double-barrel 12ga shotgun with Damascus pattern barrels by E. M. Reilly & Co. London marked, manufactured for Oaks & Co. Madres (India). The gun shows 30-1/8” barrels, 46-1/2” overall with stock measuring approx. 14-7/8 from the front trigger to the end of the horn rubber buttplate. The gun shows standard extractors. The water table shows a series of English proofs and reproofs, 2-1/2” chamber, 3 grams black powder, 1-1/8 oz of shot. Proofed to 3 tons. Left barrel marked 740, right barrel marked 719. The gun shows a quality bank note scroll engraved frame with nicely rebrowned barrels showing 90% thinning, correct color old tobacco brown restored finish. The action has been lightly polished a satin grey, the top of the frame is marked “Ellis & Scots Patent” by the release lever.
Comnent: With all the patent numbers, should be able to date this gun..no serial number though.
http://www.icollector.com/Classic-full-s...lly-Co_i8787083

xxxxx - (1880)?
Name: E.M REILLY (no address mentioned) (best gun)
Description: Made for Maharana Sri Natwarsinji. 8 bore double rifle. 28” barrels. 3 1/4 chamber. sights for 50, 100, 150, 200 yards.
Comnent: Spanish site - have to sign on to see the photos. Fue fabricado especialmente para un principe hindú: H.H.Maharana Shree Warhatsincji Loonanara
http://www.cazayarmas.org/t7127-e-m-reilly-a-la-altura-de-los-mejores

xxxxx - (1880’s?) Best hammer gun
Name: E.M REILLY (address not mentioned)
Description: 12 gauge, classic hammer pigeon gun, beautifully engraved. 31” nitro proofed steel barrels with Briley Chokes and 3” chambers; Double triggers; extractor; splinter forearm pistol grip,
Comnent: All that info…no SN or address off the rib. (scroll down alphabetically)
http://www.stevebarnettfineguns.com/asp-bin/archivedetail.asp?ID=6191

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I've added about 30 Reilly SN's above on all three pages (SN 164-25000), (25000-35654) and (xxxxx). And have had to move more SN's to the second page. Many of them were from Terry Buffum's collection now up for sale. There were no surprises as to serial numbers and their addresses/projected dates of manufacture. This means that the chronology laid out above is probably pretty accurate. So unless there's something from the pre-Oxford street time frame or some pre-SN 9000 guns, I won't add more. The objective was to get a handle on dates - that I believe has been done.

I've looked at every Reilly I can find for a couple of months now. And looking at Terry's collection...I'll simply say that there are going to be some very happy shooters when the bidding's done.

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Originally Posted By: lagopus
Looks like you have spent some time on research; excellent work. Ever thought of putting it all in to book form? Reilly guns were sometimes forged as I acquired one once. I knew what was and was given it. Totally un-restorable and nothing like the work turned out by Reilly himself although it might have fooled a blind man. I de-activated it as a wall-piece for someone. May have a photo somewhere on file.

Still slightly in shock about the pump action at a game shoot. Welcome to the board. Lagopus.....


Lagopus. I've spent about 12 years on the sub-continent, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan.. If it's a forgery and it rusts, I'd bet it was made by Pashtuns in their arms factories north of the Kohat Pass (traditionally an Adam Khel, Afridi area but now simply business). Except that their forgeries are so good that ATF can't tell their copies of a Snider-Enfield or a Martini-Henry from a real one.

The Civil War reenactor crowd discovered Pashtun copies of the 1853 Enfield. In 2004 you could buy one in Kabul for $100. But the Pashtuns are above all businessmen when they aren't killing someone in a blood-feud, and they rapidly figured out the market. Sniders and Martinis stayed pretty much the same price..but by 2012 Classic percussion gun 1853 Enfields would cost you near $500 in Kabul. You'll find them over here with Confederate Army stamps...but with sub-continent serial numbers. I've had to disabuse several dealers in Confederate memorabilia about the provenance of their gun.




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1814 -1835 - Holborn Bars and High Holborn


My last post unless I get a stash of early Reilly serial numbers. Here are changes I've made which can help with dating:

London records prove Reilly opened 12 Middle Row in 1814 and was there till 1835. This is also known as "Holborn above the Bars.". Thus I believe any Reilly with "Holborn Bars" is pre-1835. (316 High Holborn is "above the bars" so I could be mistaken...yet, makers stamp their guns with something identifiable. So until there is more info available, I'll stick to the analysis and with the almost unmistakable evidence - the woodcut of Chancery Lane which has "Holborn Bars" on the top of the building.

London tenancy and voting registration records prove JC Reilly opened the 316 High Holborn address in August 1835 and closed it in March 1847. Thus any gun with the 316 or "High Holborn" address is within this 12 year period.

Changes have been made in the various chronologies above. There are not many data points from this era...but it's a bit more clarity.

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Originally Posted By: trw999
Well done on the research Argo44. I too am a veteran, British Army.

I often toddle off to the British Library to look up old shooting journals such The Field, Arms & Explosives, The Sporting Goods Review. Let me know if you'd like me to look up any particular issue.

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1814-1833 - Reilly as a Jeweler, Silverplate


Tim....here is something I'm still working on. JC Reilly's background as a "jeweler." I think he was a silver plate worker...explains his engraving skills..and probably why the lawyers and country gentlemen brought guns to him...i.e. to be engraved. Here is a post I modified:

1819 - He entered a maker’s mark at Goldsmiths Hall in 1819 as a plateworker from 12 Middle Row, Holborn. (Note: I've been unable to verify this; there is a John C. Reilly from 1818-20 with a silver maker's mark; Plate would seem to indicate he worked in silver. Every goldsmith's mark is registered but I have difficulty navigating the site. Somebody in London might research this.)

If you're ever in London, would be interested in that mark..if it exists. And if it exists, any examples of "silver" he engraved which might be extant. It would be interesting to compare his "jeweler" engravings to his gun engravings.

Last edited by Argo44; 09/11/18 05:40 PM.

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Thanks Argo44. This plethora of information has been a great help in establishing the provenance for my 4 bore E.M. Reilly.

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