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Interesting that Mournetas puts the second set of barrels at 1922, but the manually typed page referenced above at 1919. What is the source of the latter?

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Mike, according to Wildcattle, the typed list is a listing of when the barrels were made, not the guns.

I have had no one explain where the list originated.

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James, I am really looking forward to seeing it when everything is done. The second set of barrels is quite a find.

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I must've missed this thread back when it originated. I'd think anyone with an Ideal would want to save it! Really nice gun, great find.

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Larry,

An interesting aside is that James and I, and others, when we have work done on them, invariably get very positive feedback from the smiths who are encountering them for the first time. Action design, materials employed, and execution are typically cited.

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Mike & Larry, further to Mike's comment, the gunsmith who has it now and has been doing the stock refinish, had not examined one before and is quite taken with the design as in "where do I get me one of these?" LOL Maybe not those exact words but you get my drift.

This is not the first time I have experienced that.


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Hello All,

Great to see this thread again!

Canvasback, looking forward to seeing pictures of the gun.
Maybe too late, but perhaps the checkering could be the typical basket weave
some Idéals have.

The typed list was sent to me by a Frenchman who had "inherited" it from
an uncle who worked at Manufrance. I have not been able to remember where
I contacted him or if he contacted me :-(

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Originally Posted By: JayCee
Hello All,

Great to see this thread again!

Canvasback, looking forward to seeing pictures of the gun.
Maybe too late, but perhaps the checkering could be the typical basket weave
some Idéals have.

The typed list was sent to me by a Frenchman who had "inherited" it from
an uncle who worked at Manufrance. I have not been able to remember where
I contacted him or if he contacted me :-(

Regards,

JC


Hi JC. Nice to hear from you. Hope all is well. Thanks for responding about the typed list. Now I will make some notes about where it came from. When the gun is back I will certainly be posting some photos.

As far as the chequering goes, I have really wrestled with this for a while. Original was the basket weave style at 36LPI. Problem is I hate the basket weave style. And 36 LPI is so fine I might as well not chequer at all. So I'm going with the original pattern, but doing it either in 28 or 32 and not basket weave.

I'll never be selling the gun so......originality is not as important as having the gun that I want.


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I have been fortunate to receive some phone camera pics of the stock in process. What was obscured is being revealed, and it is a wonderful example of regia.

Dustin and others have made the point that the barrels could languish for years before being fitted to a gun. Yesterday I was cruising the French auction site, and found an Ideal with pattern welded tubes on a receiver with the modern single trigger guard- no lunettes, no doll's head, but those lovely brown barrels. Could have been 20 years of dust on the tubes before they were married to a receiver. What an adventure of discovery these guns are.

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Originally Posted By: wingshooter16
I have been fortunate to receive some phone camera pics of the stock in process. What was obscured is being revealed, and it is a wonderful example of regia.

Dustin and others have made the point that the barrels could languish for years before being fitted to a gun. Yesterday I was cruising the French auction site, and found an Ideal with pattern welded tubes on a receiver with the modern single trigger guard- no lunettes, no doll's head, but those lovely brown barrels. Could have been 20 years of dust on the tubes before they were married to a receiver. What an adventure of discovery these guns are.

Mike


Mike, I saw that gun and really did a double take on the trigger guard. But it sure makes your point.


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