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Yesterday I was out picking up my duck stamps and to purchase a box of steel shot at Field and Stream, which too my surprise No steel shot. However, equally surprising was the multiple shells of 1oz loads in 28 gauge. (AA, Rem....).

Have I missed something into days shooting trends?

I enharrited a case of 1 oz 28 gauge shells, AA white box, and have been slowly giving them away. (A little concerned in running them through my 28s).

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You are not concerned at running steel loads through your 28? Wouldn't a problem with 1 oz loads be the same sort of problem you might have with steel?
I can't say I would honestly consider using my lone 28 on ducks, I consider it more of a bluebird day grouse and woodcock gun. I have never considered the possibility of using steel, or, a 1 oz load in a 28, either.
As to 1 oz loads in a 28, if they are out there, it would suggest that someone is buying them. It isn't me.


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Over on the 28-gauge Forum guys are talking about 1 1/16 ounce loads and 3-inch guns and shells --

http://28gasociety.forumer.com/topic/2354802/Wheres-the-3-inch-28-gauge#.V_pVieArKUk

Which to me seems crazy.

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Say let me clarify, steel Shot is for my 12. (Not my 28 gauge).

Observation is all the 1oz loads for 28 gauge shells.

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Somebody must be buying them. They wouldn't be there if that weren't the case.

Glad to hear a 12 is bearing the brunt of the non-toxic steel shot. I can't imagine a 28 loaded with steel to be effective for much.


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As shown by the above post Europe long ago made 28 ga 3in. I have not seen American made 3in 28ga ammo, though I have seen 3in 28ga in a cartridge collection

I had an O/U 28ga Italian guild gun marked 3in.

The 1 oz 28 ga load is ok for heavy modern built 28ga guns, but nonsense for older and superlight guns.


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The 28-gauge 1 ounce load was loaded in the US, at least for a while, a number of years ago. Jack O'Connor writes in the Shotgun Book.

In the late 1950's, Federal Cartridge Company kicked over the traces and loaded a 28-gauge magnum shell with 1 ounce of shot. The other companies followed suit.

I expect that the 28-gauge "magnum" was 3-inch.

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There's an increasing number of hunters using 28 gauge for turkey hunting with 18g/cc shot. The loads I've seen for the 28 have ranged from 1.25 oz to 1.5 oz. I know of a couple guys using o/u guns in the 28, but most are using semi-auto. I haven't heard of anyone using a 28 gauge sxs, but there is probably someone doing it.

Of course, all of these guys are using modern guns that can handle the loads. All the loads are pressure tested and within SAAMI specs. I use a 20 myself.

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Quote:
I expect that the 28-gauge "magnum" was 3-inch.


No, it was/is a 1960 follow on to the 2 3/4 inch Magnum 12-gauge (1 1/2 ounce), 16-Gauge (1 1/4 ounce) and 20-gauge (1 1/8 ounce) loads introduced in 1954, put up in the, since WW-II, standard 2 3/4 inch 28-gauge case.



Earliest ones the paper cased shells in the box upper left.

For the first thirty years of the Twentieth Century our North American 28-gauge ammo was either 2 1/2 inch with 1 3/4 drams of bulk smokeless powder pushing 5/8 ounce of shot --







or 2 7/8 inch with 2 drams of bulk smokeless powder pushing 5/8 ounce of shot. I've yet to ever find a box of these.

Then along about 1931/2 Western Cartridge Co. added a 28-gauge load to their high velocity, progressive burning powder, Super-X offerings of 2 1/4 drams equiv. pushing 3/4 ounce of shot out of the 2 7/8 inch case.



During the 1940s the 2 3/4 inch 28-gauge case was introduced and by the time WW-II was behind us the 2 1/2 and 2 7/8 inch 28-gauge cases were gone. In their January 3, 1961, catalog, Western Cartridge Co. added the 28-gauge 2 3/4 inch Magnum with 1 ounce of shot to their offerings.

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