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I am sorry for the divergence from Double guns.. though I will make a comparison. I ask because you guys remain the most knowledgeable group of gun guys I know.
So Grandpap had one deer rifle; A model 88 Winchester in .308. I always thought one in .358 would be a nice gun. Without fail they bring $2700+ on the web. Why? I know that something is worth what someone else is willing to pay but from a numbers standpoint I don't get it. It is a "field grade" gun with no ornamentation. There is never an above average highly figured piece of wood and with Est production @ 30,000+ I wouldn't consider them rare. When compared to vintage doubles that bring $3k, production numbers are much lower. When compared to "rare" gauges, production numbers are much lower and from a function standpoint any .243 or .308 can cheaply be converted to .358 if you NEED the bigger bore. Sorry for the O/T I just continue to wonder. My new to me 88 in .308 arrives this week.
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The Model 88 was introduced in the 1950s, and is subject to the pre, and post, 1964 grading criteria. Maybe that has something to do with valuation.
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The pre-64 guns do bring more, but it's the small production of the two rarer calibers, .284 and .358, that drives the asking prices. They are passed around from one dealer to another with each one working on the "greater fool" theory, hoping a Winchester collector will pay the ridiculously exorbitant prices. There is actually one on GI now for $4750! Someone wanting one to shoot is generally SOL.
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Copy, I have bought and seen the 284 at and below the $1k mark, but never a .358. Oh well. Funny little niche. I may send mine to JES for a conversion but I am not sure it is even worth the 200-300 for that. I know the .308 will do anything I want it to do.
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.358 is an excellent and versatile ctg. IF you handload. But then, a .308 is more versatile yet and you don't even have to handload! Most are "boringly accurate," too.
You'll enjoy your 88! Leave it alone. "It ain't broke!"
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Mike, I know, but what should I do with these dies and all this brass?
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Mike, I know, but what should I do with these dies and all this brass? Sell it all to the dealer with the .358.
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I am sorry for the divergence from Double guns.. though I will make a comparison. I ask because you guys remain the most knowledgeable group of gun guys I know.
So Grandpap had one deer rifle; A model 88 Winchester in .308. I always thought one in .358 would be a nice gun. Without fail they bring $2700+ on the web. Why? I know that something is worth what someone else is willing to pay but from a numbers standpoint I don't get it. It is a "field grade" gun with no ornamentation. There is never an above average highly figured piece of wood and with Est production @ 30,000+ I wouldn't consider them rare. When compared to vintage doubles that bring $3k, production numbers are much lower. When compared to "rare" gauges, production numbers are much lower and from a function standpoint any .243 or .308 can cheaply be converted to .358 if you NEED the bigger bore. Sorry for the O/T I just continue to wonder. My new to me 88 in .308 arrives this week. Winchester collectors have pockets almost as deep as Parker Bros. or Colt collectors. The .358 has following among seasoned hunters matter of fact even Savage 99 will bring well over thousand dollars. The highest quality/price ratio in lever actioned .358 Winchester would be Browning BLR which in excellent condition will set you back $650+/-50. Not sure if some chambered in that caliber came from Belgium, but all I have seen were made in Japan. Anyhow the maker is B.C.Miroku meaning quality is at least as good as anything made by Winchester or Savage Arms.
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