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Marcus, that is a very kind and humbling response to a relatively light hearted although heartfelt sentiment. Thank you.

James

Until the GOP can win the popular vote by a landslide and truely represent what most Americans want, I will worry. Until then I will bird hunt public land in the west with my doubles and bird dogs and wonder how long I have before it's taken away. While I believe the results of the election to be a good thing, I worry about my public land being taken away by the far right. Luckily Trump has agreed that Federal land should stay Federal land.

All you guys with the negative thoughts - do you always see the glass half empty ? Can't the results of this election be the glass half full ? Just once, everyone have a positive out look on life. I do, for the first time in almost eight years. There's still a chance America will be what the founding fathers thought it to be.

James, your opinion of both parties in trouble parallels my own, although I was wildly wrong in my election prediction. Writing to Canadian and American friends this is my take on it, responding to an email today from a Newfoundlander asking why we vote as we do:

"Why do we do it? Money and fear of losing our place. Newfoundland character evolved from community, multi-faceted as any other recognizing survival depended on looking after each other. Canada's multicultural experiment is a national effort, assisted by a legacy and heritage of development without slavery, wild west, civil war, racism as US. We are different from our American cousins.

"I think of Americans and Canadians as family. I�m heart-broken. Yesterday I felt physically a heaviness, foreboding and despair as if a I had been told a friend had become a heroin addict. There�s nothing I can do. Except to be more grateful for being born in a great country of parents adhering to its great values, and working for it so it doesn�t fly off into a lonely orbit like the US.

"Trumpism is regression, a consequence of a long overdue reckoning of playing the punk�s game: manipulation by the powerful and influential of lower classes to vote against their best interests. Americans believed electing a bigot-misogynist-racist in a constitutionally multicultural society would be an improvement, again voting against their best interests, making their lives worse."

Trump will have to listen carefully or suffer the same repudiation and humiliation of the current Establishment.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." � H. L. Mencken

(and I would have posted the exact same quote if Hillary had won)

A little humour helps, Jon. It'll be a long wait for the blissful state of electing a moron, with the country now 50-50!

President Obama has had the chance to have people discussing him in the history books for the next 5,000 years. But, they won't. He will be no more than a footnote, first kinda' black president in US history, if you don't count Mr. Clinton.
If he had not run so hard with his socialist dogma, that simply isn't applicable in a republic, put his narcissism on the back burner, and cooperated with the people in the legislative branch, the way he is supposed to, we could have seen great things.
Nobody can tell me a single great thing that he accomplished in 8 years, because there is literally nothing.
It was a complete waste.
We are paying the price for that wasted time. Have I mentioned the 40% of my pay that it takes to enrole in health insurance that I am now forced to buy? It used to be 5%, three years ago. I can't afford to use it, but, hey, I haven't been fined, yet.
I miss the later half of the Reagan years, when you opened a newspaper and saw 3-6 pages of jobs for your trade. What Mr. Obama gave us is literally the same thing Mr. Carter gave us, and that Mr. Reagan stripped away, setting the economy free of the government. You can argue about how you didn't like Mr. Reagan, but, you can't argue those were good times to be a productive member of society.
Mr. Trump has his work cut out for him, but, his fingerprints are not on the current mess, as he is an outsider. He owes no political favors to outside forces, as he used his own money to get elected. He has had a whole lifetime to deal with the stink and corruption of various government agencies that put their mark on every aspect of business and trade, and with any luck, he is good and sick of it.
If anyone can put the US back in order, it should be him. But, I heard that said that about Mr. Obama, too.


Best,
Ted

I think you've been taught to make these important decisions based on emotion. Some folks can overcome emotion, for example some hold their nose's and vote. Perhaps a better approach would be to educate your future generations that there're option. Then, taking an option won't affect folks physically, and more important, candidates can be heard for the message and resume that they have, not the race or gender that tics off some feel good check list.

I'm sure your buddy knows you, but you may just be perpetuating a disservice. Put up a half way decent candidate, and the winner's ability to expose shortcomings would not have been there. I think 'ability', to stick to teflon, was interesting.

Anyone who could not see this coming just hasn't been paying attention. I saw it and mentioned it here when I went to a Trump rally back in March of this year, and told you all about the unusual level of enthusiasm I saw. I told you about a black guy who I was talking to who had taken his daughter to a Hillary Clinton rally the week before, and brought her to the Trump rally so she could hear both sides in person. He seemed a bit embarrassed when he told me that he understood "how you guys feel." I asked what he meant, and he replied that he was talking about the middle class working man who had been beaten down by trade and taxes, and expected to continually pony-up more to support those who wanted more Socialism and a Welfare State...

That is exactly the kind of crap that has left King Brown feeling a physical heaviness, a foreboding, and despair. I couldn't be happier that he feels so bad and heart broken, because it is those things King supports which have made us weaker, poorer as a Nation, and mired in a crushing debt that may yet destroy us. No man can, in only four years, fix the mess that Liberalism has created over the last 50 years. And to think he is still crying about bigotry, racism, and misogyny when the absolute worst areas of the country are those that have been governed by Democrats exclusively just boggles the mind. His words are just more of the same Liberal Left dishonesty that had Trump dead and buried in a landslide of historic proportions just days ago.

I would hope that people have learned that the Liberal Left and the Liberal Media can not be trusted to tell the truth. Can you imagine what the actual result would have been if you took out all of the votes from dead people and election fraud.

It is interesting and educational to now see all of those unhappy Hillary Clinton supporters now protesting and refusing to accept the results of the election. The Liberal Left made a huge stink about the possibility that Trump might not concede defeat even if there were reports of massive voter fraud. Now it is them who cannot and will not accept the will of the electorate. King Brown has often excused assaults and infringements upon our Constitutional Rights by Obama and the Liberal democrats on the basis that majorities decide how they wish to be governed. You will not hear the same opinion from our resident fraud and anti-2nd Amendment Troll now.

It is also sad to hear from the people who were reluctant or actually afraid to voice their true feelings about this election, and their support for Trump. I was advised yesterday by a young family member to take down my Trump yard signs and to keep my mouth shut about having supported Trump in the coming weeks, because of threats that are now being made by Liberals on Social Media to attack Trump and his supporters. Because of that, I have decided to keep up my signs, and to also tape a couple onto the outside of my truck.