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Is it really more sporting to shoot with two guns and a loader, sometimes three guns and two loaders, than with a pump in which you place two shells and have no help?
I wonder...
Also, why is it more stylish to bring down a brace with two shots from a double, but not so with a pump? Considering the added handicap of manipulating the forend, the pump arguably requires more skill and coordination. Just saying...
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Is it really more sporting to shoot with two guns and a loader, sometimes three guns and two loaders, than with a pump in which you place two shells and have no help?
I wonder...
Also, why is it more stylish to bring down a brace with two shots from a double, but not so with a pump? Considering the added handicap of manipulating the forend, the pump arguably requires more skill and coordination. Just saying... A lot of the etiquette of the titled classes in GB is a bit unfathomable to many, even some with the titles. The headmaster of my school, and my french teacher, was Lord Tottenham, the Marquess of Ely. For those who don't know, Marquess comes next after Dukes and ahead of Earls, Viscounts and Barons. We called him Sir, Mr Tottenham or Chaz if he couldn't hear us. He happily taught in Canada to get away from the ridiculousness of the social conventions that came with the title. Only occasionally would he return and take his seat in the House of Lords. One of the kindest and most elegant men I have ever met.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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And he shot a Model 12? With a cutts? I say!
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Tottenham has a lord? When i was groing up there the most famous man was Jimmy Greaves of Spurs.
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I thought Ely was in Minnesota?
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I have to say that sometimes it's tricky being British and reading some of the views expressed on here. I hasten to say that I do quite understand that it is a minority and probably (hopefully!) unrepresentative of the whole. In addition, I served 13 years as a British army officer, including five tours of active service. I do have a thick skin!
Right, having got that off my chest, I totally agree with Eugene about the awful way in which driven game shoots are depicted on film and TV. Never seen a true depiction, so for those of you who have not enjoyed the experience, please don't believe what you see on the screen!
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To clarify, I wasn't really looking for a factual documentary on driven game shoots. Most of the things in films are sort of fantasy anyhow. I dimly remember a sort of dark film which may have starred James Mason built around a shoot on an estate. Ended with some one blowing someones head off...Entertainment of sorts. My wife and I spent a bit of time in Scotland in 2000 and had an opportunity to spectate a couple of shoots. This courtesy of a couple of gamekeepers we met in a pub. (where else) Their names were Jock and Rob or some such...Scots, ya know...Drank whisky....anyhow.....thanks, I guess...
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Tottenham has a lord? When i was groing up there the most famous man was Jimmy Greaves of Spurs. Of saint and greavsie fame ? Another film with a lot of game shooting scenes is, not surprisingly "The shooting party" made in 1985. There is a similar theme with an american shooting with a pump. Why on earth you would want to shoot one when you could afford a Purdey, H&H or even a Boss o/u is beyond me. I had a pump for a while and despised the thing, traded it for a bsa side by side and never looked back.
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May have been it...Sorry about your pump...dreadful experience...
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I dimly remember a sort of dark film which may have starred James Mason built around a shoot on an estate. Ended with some one blowing someones head off That would be "The Shooting Party". All black powder, ten yard spacings (and less) plus aristocratic shagging. Piffle. Eug
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