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Boy! Jack has a way with words.

George L

One of the neat thing about Administrative law is it vary precise as to who is responsible for a rule. Hidden in the rule you will find buried the definition of who they are referring to. "All Persons" is to broad. Just know this that a properly executed pleading on "Subject matter jurisdiction" Stops or at least sets the judge and prosecution up for federal prosecution.

The heart of Administrative law is deception!

Of course you had no way of knowing that your elected reps had no power to take away any right, that would have involved common sense to know that. Public education frowns on common sense, that's why it is so uncommon.

I feel the best you can say at least, for myself is, "I'm only responsible for my own ignorance".

For you sea lawyers out there I would like to address the question made concerning my FFL or lack thereof. As Bill pointed out, not all of my guns are pre-1898, however, many are. These are the ones that I enjoy the most. As to those which are post-1898, of course I buy & sell those through an FFL holder who is a friend and to whom I pay a small fee for handling the paperwork.
Of course I checked with the BATF many years ago to determine what my duties were. I communicate with them regularly today on importation and other questions. I JUST LIKE TO COLLECT, BUY, SELL AND TRADE OLD DOUBLE GUNS AND NO, I AM NOT WAL-MART. MY PRICES ARE NOT WRITTEN IN STONE & I LOVE TO TRADE!

George L

Thanks for the support Big Al & others

For you sea lawyers out there I would like to address the question made concerning my FFL or lack thereof. As Bill pointed out, not all of my guns are pre-1898, however, many are. These are the ones that I enjoy the most. As to those which are post-1898, of course I buy & sell those through an FFL holder who is a friend and to whom I pay a small fee for handling the paperwork.
Of course I checked with the BATF many years ago to determine what my duties were. I communicate with them regularly today on importation and other questions. I JUST LIKE TO COLLECT, BUY, SELL AND TRADE OLD DOUBLE GUNS AND NO, I AM NOT WAL-MART. MY PRICES ARE NOT WRITTEN IN STONE & I LOVE TO TRADE!

George L

Thanks for the support Big Al & others

George,
Thanks for setting the record straight-not that you owe anyone, except the BATF&E, an explanation. You truly do have a few pieces that got me looking! Best, Dr. BILL

I too think our armchair laywers went a bit overboard.....but hey, its the internet right? George has a gun I like too....might have to see what I have to trade.
Steve

Speaking as an armchair lawyer you can make your own choices.

Being from the St. Louis area I can say that these guys also liked to collect, buy, sell and trade guns. Still dealing that often without a license caused them a good bit of headache.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=42686

I guess what I do not understand is why anyone would go to the trouble of getting an FFL if it is perfectly fine to run a gun business without one. Surely almost all dealers love guns and love to buy and sell them. And probably most of them collect them?

Of course there is always the possibility tha George L is an undercover BATF&E guy himself, setting up innocent would-be purchasers in an illegal sale sting. After all, he has pretty near blocked up Dave's little For Sale feature to prevent us actual collectors and casual sportsmen from unloading the odd antique JABC and by his own words admits regular communication with the Feds. Mighty suspicious...Geo

Rather unlikely, I think. I queried Mr. Lander concerning his 12e V.S. and he responded (tailed onto one of our "discussions") that he had responded (didn't say where). No private message and no email to the e-addy I gave him so he's not in a hurry. Neither am I. :] When I pay to provide an FFL receiver for purchase, I've done my duty. I may speculate but I have no means of ascertaining that anyone is operating outside the law. I doubt if I would suffer any loss unless I purchased a stolen gun.

jack

I was only joking about George L being a G-Man. He has a couple of guns up that I might be interested in too...Geo