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Jack: The Victor Sarasqueta 12E that you asked about came from the same friend that I purchased the stock of H&K Fabarms & Sig/ Battista Rizzinis from (who is now in hospice care). I may have been mistaken about having responded to your enquiry. I have had several calls about this gun. I was told by someone that I believed to be an expert that it is a 12E. However someone else who also claimed to be an expert said that it was a 7E. If you, or someone else who is knowledgeable on this maker, could look at the photos on my web site & tell me for sure. I don't want to misrepresent the grade.

George L

With regard to Eric's accurate post, most of the St. Louis area "BATF Gun Busts" were for selling post-1898 guns off-paper without meeting the fed or state requirements. And most of the prosecuted cases involved HANDGUN SALES in violation of BOTH Missouri and federal laws.

Missouri law historically has required a sheriff's permit for handgun purchase. However, that law was recently terminated by the state legislature, with much assistance from the NRA.

I don't know of any locals prosecuted for selling a few personal long guns. Generally, Missouri is a gun-friendly state, and law enforcement personnel don't harass gun owners.

Jerry Goldstein

Here's a grade 7 from 1952. Name not engraved in field on the bar. Fences different; No. 7 not scalloped. No engraving except band on barrels. The transition of your rib from square-shouldered to radiused [?] is not the appearance of the rib in this pic when it's a huge bitmap. I don't have the faintest notion what grade your gun is. Weiland's book shows a grade 12 w/ pierced toplever. I don't even know if that's typical or a hors de categorie flourish for a special customer.

jack

I believe Geo. Lander is on safe ground. The BATF definition of "dealer" includes the litmus: ". . . substantial portion of income derived from" the activity which might or might not make him a de facto "dealer". This is also an area which is none of my business but I'll bet Geo. fails with flying colors as I've never seen him sell a gun.

jack

Jack: Since I've never seen you & you've never seen me it's a safe bet that you've never seen me sell a gun. I alwas thought litmus was paper. (Just Kidding)

George L