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#464460 12/05/16 02:15 PM
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Hello and thanks for any response to whether this is a Darne. The barrel plate shows M*M,but the Darne name is not apparent anywhere I can find. My dad brought this and a Bayard side by side back from Austria after ww2. I recently removed the cosmoline that he had placed before returning in 1945. The barrels are clean and the gun has no functional oxidation. If possible, I would appreciate ammunition recommendations, as I would like to test fire it.
Thanks again for any help, if I can get these darned photos uploaded! [img]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8jYNtK_dHDgdVhBVXFlaEw5aTA/view?usp=drivesdk[/img]


[img]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8jYNtK_dHDgdU1lZHVHbVlMbUE/view?usp=drivesdk[/img]

[img]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8jYNtK_dHDgNC1RbkRLbTk2LUk/view?usp=drivesdk[/img]

[img]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8jYNtK_dHDgTjdZZlhtRGVwTlU/view?usp=drivesdk[/img]





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Looks like a Darne to me, but if it doesn't say it on the gun it is probably a gun made by another company on the Darne patent. Does it say Halifax by any chance?...Geo

Geo. Newbern #464464 12/05/16 02:58 PM
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Thanks George, No, those are the only markings on the gun.

Azure #464467 12/05/16 03:13 PM
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I ordered a box of 2.75" 1 and 1/8 Oz 7.5 shot from RST in paper to test fire. Hope this sounds reasonable!

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What gauge? By barrel plate, I assume you removed the barrels and looked at the barrel flats and you didn't see any symbols or numbers.

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It looks very much like the early R10 model to me, one piece stock,
Light engraving etc. However, I have no expertise and only Web info to go by.

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Welcome to the BBS Azure. In order to consider firing it we need to see the proof marks and other information on the barrel flats. You have to take the barrels off to see that and get a picture.

When you lift the "ears" and pull back the action, you should see a flat spring on the action top. Depress that and push the barrels back to break the friction fit and remove the barrels. Then look on the flats underneath the breech and tell us or better make a picture of what's stamped there.

There's lots of knowledgeable folks here who can tell maybe who built your gun, what the chamber length is, and what powder it was proofed for. From that you can tell what shells to try...Geo

Careful, I'd bet it isn't chambered for 2 3/4" shells!

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Thank you for the correct terminology! I am sorry, sounds like you cannot see my photos. The flats show the letters TP above a semi circular St Etienne. This semi circular St Etienne is upside down to all other markings on the flats, and is faint. All of this is just to the left of the mid line, close to the barrels, reading with the breech inferiorly. Right and left sides of the flat is marked with the crown above PT . 65 is stamped on each side of the PT marking, oriented at 90 degrees to the PT stamp ( ie longitudinally)

On the right barrel, just superior to the flats, is the serial number 10405
Closer to the flats than the serial number, the crossed palms below the crown and Ste. Etienne followed by 18.2 are stamped on each barrel.
longitudinally on each barrel. Medically to the left barrel stamp is the marking M*M

Hope this is helpful, and not more confusing!

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Azure,
As for the spring that Geo refer's too, take a look at this first:
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=439660&page=3
Ted is the resident Darne expert. Heed his caution.
Once the spring is depressed with the breech pulled completely to the rear, with one hand on the stock and the other grasping the forend and barrel, jab the muzzle into a carpeted surface. This will break the friction fit of barrel to the action. If you didn't grab the barrel and forend, the barrel could fall onto the floor by itself which is a potential screw-up. Gil

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