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Hi Guys. I have been playing with this J. Wangler dual ignition pinfire & centerfire 14 gauge. It was made in the early 1870's. I call it the "Bear Trap Gun" because of the teeth that protrude into the trigger guard. A special thanks to Bill Bates for the outstanding photos. Enjoy! [img:left]http://www.jpgbox.com/page/51142/[/img]
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What a contraption. Could you provide an image of the Belgian marks on the underside of the tubeset? Moose Snoot & I have been chasing Puškar Jan Wangler v. Jenikove(Golcuv Jenikov) on ShotgunWorld and I believe Moose Snoot ferreted out the patent for the 22 part scattergun mousetrap?



"Progress in the construction of the hunting rifle
The already well-known gunsmith Mr. I. Wangler from Kuttenberg in Bohemia, who recently received a patent for the construction of a Lancaster double gun, from which also Lefaucheux cartridges can be fired, and which is arranged in such a way that a Lancaster cartridge after being discharged is extracted from the chamber, but only when discharged, has recently come up with another very practical invention.
The same man has now constructed a new rifle, in which the locks are lodged/inserted in the stock(?), neither the lock plates nor the Schraube is visible, only the hammers
The two locks, which, as is known, consist so far of twenty-two parts, have only nine of these in the new construction, and is available with only seven on request, and both the locks and other rifle parts can be disassembled in a few moments without the use of screwdrivers and spring clamps etc.
The whole construction is very simple, solid, and it is now possible for this gunsmith, through the simplicity of his invention, to compete with every large manufacturer of guns.
These guns are already well-known by hunters here in the area.

I consider myself obliged to report of this interesting invention to the reader of the magazine.
Schrambol (possibly Schrambok) at Lestina in Bohemia on May 7, 1885.
Ignaz Ritter Rachodsky"

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopi...e79091b7953cdac

I'll attempt to move some of the info.

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Raimey
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Reminds me a bit more of an alligator / cocodrilo?

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Raimey
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What a piece of wood. Jani, what is the proper name of the stock/grip?

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I know that gun...I took the photos for a good friend. It is always interesting to see where my photos show up.

Here are a few more/








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Any chance there is a image to see what the port in the butt-plate accommodates?

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Do I understand correctly that the dual ignition system works like this ?

When using it in a pinfire mode, the pins in the hammer noses must be retracted or removed.

When in the centerfire mode, the pins in the hammer noses are extended to block the pinfire pin openings in the barrel breech when the hammer is fired.

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ellenbr, sorry I just looked through my files and I didn't have any photo with the trap all the way open. I will be seeing the owner in a couple of hours so I will ask him what is in the trap.

Here are the last two images which I had not uploaded before.




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There is a Czech book "Cesti puskari" by Vladimir Dolinek
isbn 80-206-0758-7. I believe the author is/was Kustos in a Prague
museum.
The gun is featuring on page 86 incl some details on
this WANGLER Ignac and also on page 139.
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Now I know why I read these pages.

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