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From what I understand bismuth shot is in short supply and pricey. What's the next best shot for waterfowl hunting with old doubles? TX for your replies.

I'm taking my ducks to a Federal Detox Center - you know, run by white coated hacks and enviro-do-gooders!

Dogfox: To my knowledge, the only other non-toxic lead substitute widely "approved" for low-impact use in guns built before 1975 (give or take) is tungsten matrix (brand name Impact by Kent). Unfortunately, it too seems to have about doubled in price lately. Some have opened their choke(s) and shoot steel. The problem there is that modern steel loads are more effective than the first generation of steel because they're hot as hell and will eventually pound an old gun to pieces. TT

Best Bismuth substitute found to date is, ....... lead.

You know, I read all about the closing of the Bismuth factory in the thread a couple of weeks ago. Then someone at the local sporting goods store called to give me a "heads up" that their lead shells were all going up 25% as of July 1st. When I called Mack's Prairie Wings in Stuttgart to stock up on Bismuth "before the shortage", they had plenty in stock and immediately shipped my $400 order. Prices were the same as listed in my Dec. '06 catalog. They also had plenty of Kent TM at the same price as Bismuth.

I also went by the local store and bought a couple of cases of dove loads just in case. I wonder if there is really any problem with the non-tox supply line or if we're just being "managed" into a panic by the ammunition industry.

Oh well, I certainly have plenty of shells now, just in case...Geo

"Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not really plotting against you"....my Mother

We are being "managed" and have been "managed."
If you don't believe this - your being "managed."
Things that go bump in the night, are sometimes really things that go bump in the night.
Btw, your mother was a smart person.

Sounds like there learning from the oil companys

We had a fuel strike a few years ago here in Britain,The motorists boycotted the filling stations for a day or two and economised on their fuel use.Within the week it started a price cutting war at the fuel pumps.If you check your stocks you will find you probably have enough already to last the season.Of course you could always revert to lead and kill your quarry rather than just wounding it.

Lowell you been in the Moonshine again ?

Given the current metals market, I doubt we will see a drop in price soon. In spite of all the bad press, when other metal prices rise, lead rises also.

Metals are traded on the world market and what China does not want India will buy. It goes to the highest bidder.