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Originally Posted By: 2-piper

As I view it this would be the exact opposite of what Brister's wife said. The open chokes will give you a wider spread of adequate density at shorter ranges but will play out much closer to the same range than will the full. Even a IC choke will maintain density further on a centered hit than on the fringes but is not as drastically so as the full.


Miller, here are a few quotes from Brister's chapter "Choosing Chokes and Loads", including the following, which is the very first sentence in the chapter: "Full choke is a demanding mistress; improved cylinder a forgiving friend."

"However said, the significance is that at the distances at which much game is killed, between 20 and 38 yards, the IC is at its best, offering adequate killing density but at the same time a nice, broad spread to give the shooter more margin for error."

Re full, Brister gives its "reign of superiority" as between 40-50 yards. But also notes that aiming errors are magnified with range; that pellets are losing more speed (hence, more energy); and string becomes more of an issue. He points out that full is less efficient at 55 yards than is IC at 40. Since you don't really need full until you get to 40 (or more), it actually has a rather short useful range--although if you're shooting regularly at that range, then full is clearly what you need. But it handicaps you under 40 yards, when you don't need it . . . and then runs out of steam fairly quickly.

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You know me - always ready to help out. Good to be appreciated.
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I should offer more usable advice then launching into a diatribe about the mathematics of chaos, sorry. The expansion of the shot field is pretty linear over the distance we will be shooting. Shooting a large number of patterns is time consuming and hard on the shoulder. Find the data where someone else has done the patterning and use that data.

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I think, in a nutshell, what pooch was trying to say is.....get larger paper, and shoot at it from 40 yards.....lol.

That would be a more accurate patterning technique.


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You local newspaper will be more then happy to give you their roll ends off their paper rolls to get them out of the way. They are big enough to get the whole pattern on the paper.

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Home depot sells 48" rolls of heavy duty brown paper for cheap. If a pellet does not penetrate it at 40 yards....it's no good to a hunter anyway.

Also a good idea pooch....if you can find a local news paper these days.


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I bought the Home Depot brown paper but up here it only comes in 36". And as for newspaper. They are almost out of business if they haven't succumbed yet.

Pooch, now I'm perplexed. How will someone else's patterning tell me anything about how my gun will pattern the same loads? And if you hand load, like I do with black powder, there are few who load the same way with the same components.


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If you are using black powder then the flight path performance is pretty simple as only a small part, if any of your shot will be supersonic. Just copy somebody that has shot the same load with the same muzzle velocity and your pattern work is already done. Black or nitro makes little difference. If you are following the old rule of 96 the expansion of shot and the decay of energy is what we call straight line. Shoot a pattern at 30 yds measure it, then measure your barrel diameter the distances between those two points will be proportional or close enough to proportional and will depend more on the wind and shooting consistency.

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