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#476407 03/28/17 06:23 PM
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Sometimes referred to as a "pigeon rib". This is a great example. Very much my preference on a sxs. Nice gun also, love those old Husseys, no pun intended lol.
https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/hj-huss...-gauge?rq=17731
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I agree on the beauty and quality of the Hussey Imperials, but disagree on the rib smile To me it adds a hard line when compared to the svelte game rib. I want a softer feeling in my left hand as I careen around the mountains in search of grouse. I have a Luccini with a level file cut rib and am about to dispose of it due to my dislike of the rib. On the clays range or driven peg, my objections to the level rib dwindle to aesthetics.


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Owen,
Good point. My Merkels have the flat rib, where as my Browning sidelocks have the game rib. I never gave it much thought but that could explain my preference for choosing the Browning over the Merkel when I chase birds instead of clays. If I owned that Hussey, I could learn to overlook that rib!
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Karl, my views on ribs are continually evolving. I recently discovered that I i'm not particularly fond of even a thin file cut rib on an over and under. It is actually has a harder edge than on a SxS the way I like to hold when hunting. Give me a stub rib on an o/u and I am much happier to walk 7 miles with it in tow.

A piece that was to be auctioned in Gavin gardiner's upcoming sale, now, alas withdrawn! The most elegant stub rib I have encountered.


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I have an Imperial Ejector with a swamped rib. Clearly mine is a game gun at 6-10 with 28" bbls.

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Interestingly, a fellow BBS member who has a great affection for the HJ Hussey guns and I had this same discussion a few days ago regarding this particular gun. After much consternation we came to the conclusion that the rib on this gun is most likely original to the gun as opposed to being a later add on. We also discussed the possible purposes of the pigeon rib. The jury is still out there. It seems to me, however, that the pigeon ribs are somewhat elevated at the breech and less so at the muzzle.....making me wonder if their purpose was possibly to aid in placing the shot charge higher than that of a typical SxS shotgun, most of which tend to shoot a bit low (I know John said this particular gun has a flat, level rib but I can't tell that's the case for sure from the Steve Barnett photos). This is only conjecture on my part. Having said that, I possess a heavy proof 20 bore with a pigeon rib situated as I described above. I can't really tell much difference in terms of point of impact from shooting the gun, but I have not formally patterned the gun either. Sometimes I wonder if a pigeon rib just doesn't add wanted/or unwanted weight to the gun as a whole. One thing I know for sure, a shotgunner does not want a rib that draws the eye away from the target....we only want to keep our eyes on the target. Does a pigeon rib tend to draw one's eye from the target, or rather does it facilitate keeping an eye on the target? So, is a pigeon rib useful (e.g., if it were to raise the point of impact) or is it superfluous, or even worse, does it draw the shooter's eye off the target and lend to 'barrel checking', the kiss of death for the shooter? As an example of a rib configuration that may draw one's eye from a target, let me suggest you try a gun with a very tapered rib. I personally own a 32" trap gun with a very tapered rib and I believe at times I barrel check this gun and more frequently so than other guns with differently configured ribs, that I shoot. It could just be me, but I wonder?? Interesting question for sure; what do you think?


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Buzz,
It does indeed make perfect sense. I know that I rarely get in a shooting slump with my game ribbed guns, where as I sometimes do with the staight ribbed Merkels, forcing me to step back and regroup.
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I think I shoot my raised, flat, level ribs best of all, and the wider the better. I don't even mind a stepped rib. I think I shoot swamped rib guns the worst. I've got some of 'em all.

The configuration of a rib does not draw ones eye to it, and off the bird, IMO. That is just a lack of focus on the target, be it feathered or painted, and the result of a flawed shooting technique that needs to be dealt with.

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Don't know how anyone who is a serious shotgunner would let a rib like this one bother their shooting. I really don't.
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Originally Posted By: Stan
I think I shoot my raised, flat, level ribs best of all, and the wider the better. I don't even mind a stepped rib. I think I shoot swamped rib guns the worst. I've got some of 'em all.

The configuration of a rib does not draw ones eye to it, and off the bird, IMO. That is just a lack of focus on the target, be it feathered or painted, and the result of a flawed shooting technique that needs to be dealt with.

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Dittos. Well stated Stan.
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