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What you see there is bunch of folks with one track mind and too much money to throw away. For the price asked I would look for 30 guinea or 35 guinea Facile Princeps W.W. Greener in very good original shape. It is better firearm that externally looks very similar to A.H.Fox. The only downside is most have central european style side safety buttons.
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If you like a Fox you won't be very interested in a Greener. Just like Ford drivers won't be interested in other brands collectors tend to pick one brand to fall in love with.
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If - and these are big ifs - the numbers match, there are no major barrel issues (bulges, pitting, dents), or the insides aren't frozen up, this gun is worth much more than 3700. It's just a lottery without that info.
A person looking for a Super Fox and its barrel boring would not take a Greener as an alternative.
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If one does not like W.W. Greener 'Far Killer' there are more unique pieces for wild fowlers looking for classic gun. Working from memory there was something "chamber-less" for thin brass shells from Tolley of England. The name was "Altro" if I recall correctly. Another fine alternative to paying extra thousands for heavy back-bored barrels and 3" chamber.
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Jagermeister you just don't get it I guess. These buyers are not looking for what we might consider better values. They are hoping to hit a home run with a gun that looks rough but if they get lucky is a well worth it restoration gun.
Deal with the surface rust, clean it up, get it functioning and redo the wood. Rust blue the barrels. Unless they find major hidden problems they will have their dream HE for about half the market price. About five years ago a very high grade Lefever was at auction and everyone saw it as a basket or hopeless case. It cleaned up well and was a very solid, very rare gun. If people had seen the completed redo on the gun it would have brought twice the price.
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In English fowler for same or less money one will get better shaped wood, nicer checkering, horn or metal butt plate and nicely file cut flat rib plus excellent handling from heavier 7.5lb+ gun. I do not get it.
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JM, you are either doing this on purpose to troll or you are thick as a brick.
A Fox HE has a storied place in American shotguns. These are Americans bidding on the gun. There is a collectibility factor that overrides other, suitable, less expensive alternatives from across the pond. It's just that simple.
Please remove yourself to a forum more in keeping with your interests. Your posts here add nothing and are frequent enough to suggest you are a tad obsessed with annoying us.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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has it been established that this gun is in fact a fox he?
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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JM, you are either doing this on purpose to troll or you are thick as a brick.
A Fox HE has a storied place in American shotguns. These are Americans bidding on the gun. There is a collectibility factor that overrides other, suitable, less expensive alternatives from across the pond. It's just that simple.
Please remove yourself to a forum more in keeping with your interests. Your posts here add nothing and are frequent enough to suggest you are a tad obsessed with annoying us. For substitute I recommend Jeffrey's Zenith Gun 32" barrels & square bolt. Very strong & powerful.
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jager: please try to stay on topic...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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