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Nudge #478019 04/16/17 11:03 PM
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Q: Has centrifugal casting ever been used in shotgun tube making?


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I saw this comment in this older thread:
Colt: An American Legend by RL Wilson shows the "Capt. D.H. Ross" 1883 hammerless with "COLT" within the damascus pattern.

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I have Wilson's book on Colt guns. The photo caption states; "for display a set of barrels was made with the tiny word COLT encircling the tubes".

The photo shown of this gun, does not show this set of tubes with the COLT word in it. The gun is mounted with a set of three iron Crolle tubes.

Has anyone actually seen this set of COLT word damascus tubes, or a photo of it?


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Yes. I know how these word Damascus patterns are made. wink I'm plotting a post, to answer the question about how Pieper got his name in the pattern.

I don't remember seeing the A. Arthur barrel before. I'm interested in finding photos of any known barrels with words in the pattern. I've got Gramme, Pieper, Remington and now this Arthur. I thought I had seen the Colt in one of the books in my library; but I have so many books.... Haven't found it yet.

I would appreciate any large format images of any of these barrels! Some of the images that I have are not high quality.


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There is a Parker with another name entwined. Maybe someone who knows about it will chime in. I think the name was Terrell.

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Not a great image. Terell was reported to be a Parker "rough forged tube" buyer/agent in Liege.

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Thanks for the Terell barrel pic, Drew! I've saved it to my computer. Will try to clean it up. If there are any high resolution photos available of any of these word pattern barrels, it would help me out a lot.

I'll work up a post on how word pattern barrels were made. Maybe will start a new thread, when I have it ready. It will take me some time to create computer generated images to explain the process, so it will be a bit before I have it ready.

There's some interesting similarities between these barrels; and also some interesting differences. I'm curious if there is any information about the makers of them.

Also wonder if anyone knows the present location of the D.H. Ross gun, with the Colt barrels. And whether the Colt word barrel set is with it. If I'm going to do this thread, it would be nice to have it include all known examples of this damascus pattern technique.


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Wow, Steve! If you're able to pull this off with the help of your computer it will be a tremendous addition to our knowledge of the art of damascus. Looking forward to your report!


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I've been baffled by the lettering for years, one theory I came up with was that the letters were in the pack in the same way the letters are put into seaside rock (sweet sugary holiday treat on this side of the pond - see link attached) I'd imagine the letters would be lost during the twisting though. I'm intrigued and look forward to reading the post by Steve when it's ready.


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Glad there is interest in seeing how these patterns were made. Putting together an explaination for these patterns is something that I have been working on for a while. I intended to write a book, explaining how all of the barrel damascus patterns were made. Kind of thought I might be able to get some money for the little bit of marketable knowledge that I have. Posting the information to this forum may be cutting into my retirement income. wink

I'll be using several different software applications to create the sketches and illustrations for this thread. One application has just recently become available to me and it will greatly reduce the work required to create the illustrations. This software is called Thor II. (Yes, there was an earlier first version of Thor). Thor was created by a blacksmith from Germany. His name is Christian Schnura. The Thor software is able to illustrate what a twisted damascus pattern will look like, after a sketch of the billet arrangement is loaded to the software. This thread will be a great place to introduce Thor to the readers of this forum. I'll post in the thread where to download Thor II and instructions for how to use it.

Please let me know of any information available on ANY barrels with words in the damascus pattern.


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