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Wonder how much traction the Feinstein, Pelosi, Brady, Schumer and Bloomberg gruppen will get from the fact that the deranged Illinois man legally bought and passed the NICS in Illinois (a not favorable State for gun-owners I believe) for both the rifle and the handgun he carried Wed. 14th AM when he ambushed the in-armed Republican members of the House and Senate at the baseball park in VA--Thank God there were armed and trained members of the DC Congressional security detail present, and they were able to snuff out this deranged "person" before further carnage could develop.
Every day, it seems the evening and morning network news brings another story of violence.. And banning handguns or any guns from law-abiding citizens is NOT the answer. How do we screen out the "Charlie Manson" types from passing the NICS background check, I wonder. Anyone have a solid idea on this?
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Note that except for the fact that the "whip" is a position that has a security detail, the baseball field would have been a "Gun Free Zone". These shooters seem to always choose areas where they think no one can stop them. These officials should be able to "carry" if they want to. BTW, the UPS facility that also got "shot up" yesterday was another "Gun Free Zone". These zones and "Zero Tolerance Policies" are just foolish. Mike
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No way to know, but if his wife knew he loaded a van with guns and ammo and headed to Washington, DC, and was gone a month without good reason, she had a pretty good idea what he was up to and should have notified SOMEBODY in LE. She should face some charge if she knew the situation and said nothing. Just saying... JR
Be strong, be of good courage. God bless America, long live the Republic.
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I think one sure way to prevent a lot of mentally disturbed people from buying guns would be to electronically link voting machines to the NICS (National Instant Check System).
Any prospective gun purchaser who voted for an extreme anti-gunner like Obama or Hillary Clinton would obviously be admitting to be profoundly insane and mentally ill. You cannot claim to be pro-gun or pro-2nd Amendment if you vote for politicians who wish to infringe upon the gun ownership rights of law abiding citizens. That would be like an abortion doctor claiming to be pro-life.
EDIT: For some reason... as soon as I heard that the shooter was not a Muslim terrorist, but was a whacked-out Liberal Democrat who had been making online rants against Trump... I thought of rocky mtn bill.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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RWTF, nothing can change your prevalence of multiple killings, many unreported every day in a culture that generally worships guns. The US makes its rules and lives by its consequences, as do other countries.
You've often disclosed the wretched experience of Prohibition and its consequences. Same thing. For guns, democratic citizens make rules to accommodate a balance of freedom and public safety.
They change what they don't like over time, often depending on where they live, gun-free zones as a part of it. You know all this, Fox. There are lots of "solid" ideas of how to make it safer but nothing is safe or certain.
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Incidents like this one will likely invoke some response since the holy politicians were involved. More laws are always the most attractive approach and no one ever suggests that simply enforcing ALL of the existing statutes would be a viable alternative. Always easier to yap and posture than to allocate funds for programs already mandated but lacking those pesky $. Not that it would have done anything in this instance anyway but that is as well an aspect that will be ignored.
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RWTF, nothing can change your prevalence of multiple killings, many unreported every day in a culture that generally worships guns. The US makes its rules and lives by its consequences, as do other countries.
King, do you have even a shred of evidence to back up your wild claim that there are many unreported killings every day here in the U.S.? C'mon King, put up or shut up. I'm sick of you constantly denigrating our country and attempting to undermine our gun rights with your falsehoods. We don't "worship guns". But those of us with any brains at all do indeed value our freedoms and our Constitutional Rights. We don't swallow the kind of crap you frequently post here: Ed, historically the individual "right" to bear arms is relatively new. I believe John Ashcroft in 2002 became the first federal attorney-general to proclaim that individuals should be able to own guns. The Supreme Court in 2008 overturned all mainstream legal and historical scholarship by ruling that there is an individual right to own firearms although with some limits. Obama said it again last week.
I believe that during the previous 218 years the Second meant what it said: firearms shall be held by "the People"---a collective and not individual right---insofar they are in the service of "a well-regulated militia." Was an individual right even mentioned at the Constitutional Convention or in the House when it ratified the Amendment or when debated in state legislatures? I don't think so.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Always interesting to get the Marxist point of view from King.
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RWTF, nothing can change your prevalence of multiple killings, many unreported every day.... The loon progressive got his foot in the door, but after a minimal screening process, he should have been flagged and booted off the high profile campaign. The only thing that's being unreported is the careless latitude a major party leader is given for his security policy. Read the transcripts. When sanders distanced himself, he blamed the loon progressive, not the inanimate object. Give him a day or two, and he, along with the usual suspects, will start blaming the gun and R's again. Shows what he really thinks about joe average, eh.
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Socialist Sanders is from a pro-gun state. He knows how the bread is buttered.
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