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Craig, bearing Ken61'S admonitions in mind, I'll just ask you in an emotionally neutral way, what makes you think I'm OK with all the Clintons' policies? I've never said so here. You have no other knowledge of my beliefs and political positions. What I'll never understand about you and Keith is that you presume to know everything about me without ever having had any contact beyond this forum. The assumption that I have every feature of your version of a cartoon liberal is insulting and dishonest. You can't possibly know these things. Why you pretend to is an ongoing annoyance. I would never presume you're OK with all Trump's actions. I can't say policies because he hasn't got any actual policies.

James, "not so much in . .70 years"? How about Canada's influence as a middle power since 1945. You forgot NATO and Suez Crisis when the big powers dithered. For a country a tenth of our southern neighbour's population Canada pulled its weight. Germany today declares us as its closest and most dependable friend.

From NOAC, �to promote peace, prosperity and security through knowledge and understanding of the importance of NATO�:

�In 1956, Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser took steps to nationalize the Suez Canal in order to reap the economic benefits. The canal, co-controlled by Britain and France, was an important military and economic. Assisted by France and Israel, the British invaded Egypt and re-seized control of the canal. Following the invasion, which could have led to outright war between the parties involved, the Canadian Secretary of External Affairs, L.B. Pearson stepped in and advocated for a UN contingent of troops to impede open warfare. Thanks to Pearson�s efforts, a UN peacekeeping force called the United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) was established. As a result of Canada�s important contribution to the creation of UNEF, peacekeeping and the pursuit of peace became a kind of self-sustaining theme and objective of Canadian foreign relations for several decades. Canada�s role in peacekeeping was perceived very differently to its role in western organizations. Misconceptions about Canada�s role in the Suez crisis led to the belief that it intervened to uphold international law, when, in fact, its goal was to prevent outright confrontation between NATO and Commonwealth member states, which could have resulted in the demise of these organizations.

"Canada had a vested foreign policy interest in resolving the Suez Crisis. Pearson believed that Anglo-American relations, the UN, a functioning Commonwealth and NATO were the pillars for peace, freedom and change within the world. The future of these organizations was placed in jeopardy as a result of the Suez Crisis. The U.S., fearing that Egypt would align itself with the Soviet Union, went as far as threatening to dump both the British and French currencies, paving the way for a financial crisis in both states. Such an event would have led to a major rift among member states or the demise of NATO and the Commonwealth. Consequently, Canada, in a bid to protect its national interests, sought to ensure that the allies avoided a confrontation and maintained good relations. As an Indian diplomat remarked: �Canada�s attitude on Suez was the only thing that saved the Commonwealth from dissolution.�

And, from Wikipedia, here�s Canada and NATO, James:

"Canada has been a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) since its inception in 1949.[1] Canada was not only a member but one of the principal initiators (founding countries) of the alliance.[2] This Atlanticist outlook was a marked break with Canada's pre-war isolationism, and was the first peacetime alliance Canada had ever joined. However, Canadian officials such as Hume Wrong and Lester B. Pearson and including Prime Minister Louis St. Laurent worked in favour of the alliance not only because they sought to contain the Soviet Union, as did other members, but because they hoped the treaty would help to eliminate any potential rivalries between the United States, the United Kingdom, and other European great powers (principally at the time France, but later including West Germany), where Canada would be forced to choose sides.[2] This had long been the overriding goal of Canadian foreign policy. The main Canadian contribution to the North Atlantic Treaty was Article 2 which committed members to maintain a "free" political system and to promote economic cooperation, in addition to the more usual diplomatic and military matters.[2] However trans-Atlantic unity in political and economic matters has not come to fruition, as European states have looked toward the European Union and its antecedents while North America has the North American Free Trade Agreement.�

Despising the Liberal Party as you do, and deserving as they are at times, no reason for not giving credit to leadership and country where it's due.

rocky mtn bill, I have no idea what "conservative circus in Kansas" you are referring to. But knowing you, it was just another Liberal Left attack on the politicians who actually respect and defend the 2nd-Amendment... much like those made by you and the Liberal Left wacko who used a gun to attack Republican Congressmen. Did I mention that he made me think of you Bill?

That was the original topic here, but King Brown is doing his typical thread diversions in yet another attempt to move the discussion away from the mental sickness called Liberalism.

But going back to try to find what in hell you were referring to, I did come upon our little exchange in the "Per Obama: A Failed Presidency" thread from 12/2016. You can go here and follow our little exchange where you engaged in your usual dishonesty about the Republicans, beginning with your post # 465322, and ending with my final response in post #465419. And then you put your tail between your legs and ran off as you have done so often. I could re-post all of it here for you if you'd like everyone to see what a dishonest Liberal Left turd you are.

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=465322&page=12

Like craigd, I don't know you beyond this forum, nor would I care to. But your own words betray you Billy. Are we supposed to just forget the things you say that show us what a devout and blind Liberal Socialist sock puppet you are? I know it isn't considered civil or mannerly to have a good memory and dredge up these things you said in the past, but I'm learning to live with myself.

By the way, you never answered craig's question about your boy Obama meddling in another country's election. That would be the Israeli election Billy. You might also want to tell us what you thought of Obama telling the Russian ambassador, and caught on a live microphone, that he'd have "more flexibility" to deal with Putin after the elections. That sounds a lot shakier than anything Trump or his associates have done. Then there's that little deal that Hillary cut to give Russia control of 20% of our uranium.



https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2015/04/23/...ranium-company/

How about getting back on topic King. The discussion is about the mentally ill violent tendencies of wacko Liberals who wish to use extreme violence and political assassination to suppress our system of governance.

Crikey. This really blew up.

Canada... just another English suburb. Good one. Not as good as A gas station masquerading as a country, but good.


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Europe must take control of its own fate. Angela Merkel.
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Ah, John, I'd rather have fun with your assumed anonymity.

King I am reminded of a old saying I once heard by one rather old school relative I had. "A friend will help you move but a True Friend will help you move a body. No question asked, except did you bring the shovel?" Germany might consider your nation as a friend but trust me if and when it comes time to lift or move a body they won't be calling you.

Germany right now is a mess and will become worse over the next 20 years. All their new refuges will either learn to be German or the Germans will be forced to deal with it. Trust me, Germany is not going to become a Muslim state any time soon. If you have people move in and they become part of your culture, part of your national family if you will call them that, it's called a migration of new blood. If they refuse to become part of your national family it's an invasion. Few end well.

A blessing of your country was its sheltering of the weak and dispossessed on your shores. Canada's is a multicultural experiment. I think Arabic is our provincial capital's second language, Canada will be mostly people of colour in 25 years. We're trying to accommodate all as part of a national family, as you say, but it's hoping---the expectation of something better.

Who ya gonna call, King? Who ya gonna call Europe? LOL LOL LOL


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There are two types of Europeans. Smart ones and those that stayed. H. L. Menken

When I was young 50-60 years ago, there was a lot of talk about "he's a typical Englishman." Only we learned he wasn't. He was often a remittance man, an obnoxious snot sent overseas by family to get him out of the way. The English aren't that way at all. English suburb, I wish. Great people. I feel the same of our Quebecois, different, progressive and proudly French. I live in an Acadian parish, the first English and Protestant family to settle here in 200 years.

Bill, true, I don't know you beyond the forums, but I think it's safe to say that patterns develop. You have obviously categorized me. Maybe, you can see two things that I have the preference to do.

I like to stay on policy, but I've conceded that is not always possible. Just a bit ago, I made a comment about liking and not liking shouldn't cloud policy distinctions. Apparently, you think policy doesn't matter, now it's a respect issue? I don't respect the gal at all, who's concept of respect is more important, yours or mine?

The other thing that I have a preference to do is snip out thoughts, not to misquote, but to lessen the fog and key in on points. To me, points mean policy issues that folks have an agenda to use to make progressive changes to the country. I also think quoting lessens presumptions. I make the commitment, best I can, not to attempt to know you, but to respond to quotes. I think you know that I visit near your neck of the woods now and then, maybe some day I'll bump into you at one of the local shows. I'll make an effort to say hi, but it'll still be me on the inside.