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Nick. C #484518 07/02/17 09:29 AM
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We were up in that part of the country a few months back visiting family and the old farm. Nice Country...

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WKM, it is easier to see from the margins, where you've taken yourself with your overweening narcissism. Your affliction, your need for attention is the reason you insult members while trying to project yourself as a valorous protector of constitutional rights. We know you can't help it. Reason would take your crusade to where the antis are; there is none here.

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Carlos Norman Hathcock- legend in my beloved USMC. His C.O. "In Country" Capt. Jim Land and Hathcock both established the standards for the refined art of military sniping. Gunny Hathcock was nominated for the Navy Cross, after saving the lives of several brother Marines in 1969- 'Nam- booby trap that took out their vehicle-- Hathcock was badly burned in his selfless actions that saved the lives of several men-- and his accuracy was legendary.

He did, in fact, use a M70 Match Rifle--30-06 scoped and set up for long range sniping by USMC armorers-- later went to the issue M40-- Remington 700 in .308/ 7.62mm NATO round- 10x scope (Redfield)--He was the first NCOIC when the USMC opened its scout/sniper program Stateside- Initial training under Captain Land was on Okinawa during the Vietnam War--

Old saying about sniping- "It's not always the number killed, but the importance (Generals, etc.)of the of the men killed by your scout/sniper teams."

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I see that you're as delusional and dishonest as ever King, and still able to deny your own words and attempts to undermine the 2nd Amendment by posting absolute falsehoods about Supreme Court rulings and the NRA.

You still haven't answered my questions about how and when the NRA rewrote history or changed the words of the Framers. Nor have you told us how you view the word "People" in the other Amendments that contain the same phrasing, "the right of the People" as the 2nd Amendment. We already see that you apparently have perverted the words "No Free MAN" to have a plural or collective meaning.

Those same things are done by anti-gunners King... not true pro-gun guys. Since you don't see a shred of anti-2nd Amendment, anti-gun, or anti-NRA sentiment in either your posts, or those of your fellow Troll Ed Good, why don't you share your definition of anti-gun sentiment with us? That should be interesting.

I see I've become WKM now. Did Jack or John M. die, or did they go to Oslo for a Nobel Prize? It's hard to keep track of all the flattering things you've called me... "the Fringe"... "It"... "terrible twin..."racist"..."misogynist"..."greedy"..."selfish"..."narcissist"... hell, you even called me a liar for several days until I posted your own words admitting that you illegally transported a handgun across the U.S.-Canadian border... several times. I wonder where Gladys was when all of that name-calling was going on? Since you still travel abroad, I'd guess the Canadian authorities might still see you as a risk. Would you think it was anti-gun if they confiscated all of your firearms and rescinded your license? Or would they just be enforcing the "living document" of Canadian law, and the fact that democracies make choices?

There was even this very sick and strange accusation from you directed at me:

Originally Posted By: King Brown
His comedic projection of swords and snakes as tough masculinity comes off as homophobic and distinctly phallic!


You never did explain that one King. Maybe you can do it when you answer those questions you keep evading like the plague.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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You've seen the trend, as you say. Malcontents here at down to one, thankfully. We know you can't help yourself with your hypermale impersonations.

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Keith your right, King's responses to you have at times lowered him to your level of kindness and manners

I would hope he not respond to your negativity with the same ugliness.

Sad how your actions can sully a place

Originally Posted By: keith

…..Mental illness can hardly explain the kind of dishonesty you exhibit here King. You can keep right on posting denials King, hoping people will forget what you posted in the past. I will keep right on reminding them with your own words, that we have anti-2nd Amendment Trolls right here undermining our rights and stabbing us in the back…..



Originally Posted By: keith

...That about sums up your mindset King. You are sick. You are a mentally ill anti-gun Troll in total denial of facts, clear words, and clear meaning, as patiently and repeatedly explained by the very Framers who wrote those words. And you are dishonest to the core of your being.....



Originally Posted By: keith

.....Please don't make us wait much longer to post your anti-gun legacy in the "Silent Doubles" memorial forum. Please hurry. Don't you want to see if you can abuse your poor dog Jake in the afterlife?...



Originally Posted By: keith

......I'm just sick and tired of having a lying, dog abusing, foreign Socialist piece of crap coming here and attempting to undermine our Constitutional Rights by posting anti-gun propaganda and verifiable falsehoods. There is no joy and no challenge in debating one such as you, who is so totally dishonest as to be in denial of their own unedited words.....



Originally Posted By: keith

..,,,,The final say will be my memorial tribute to you and all of your anti-gun sentiments in Silent Doubles. You deserve it King. You earned it...


Originally Posted By: keith
...You are so f***king stupid....


That is just a few of your pleasant thoughts within this thread


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Oh, Canada. Beautiful country. Some of my fondest memories of it are of attending the Windsor Ballet as a young man. They have the Ballet up in Loon Lake?


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Originally Posted By: old colonel
Keith your right, King's responses to you have at times lowered him to your level of kindness and manners

I would hope he not respond to your negativity with the same ugliness.


Too little, too late Gladys. I wonder why you didn't admonish King the many times he engaged in name calling and false accusations as they occurred? I wonder why you didn't initiate any threads dedicated to his anti-2nd Amendment or totally off-topic political diversions... going on and on for days as you did... keeping it up until Dave locked it... and running a behind the scenes messaging strategy with like-minded toadies? I wonder why you don't devote the same time and energy to confronting the falsehoods posted by a guy who is demonstrably attempting to undermine our Constitutional Rights through the use of repetitive anti-gun propaganda, and support for anti-gunners?

Actually, I really don't wonder. It was no surprise to see you jump into this thread to once again attack me while at the same time giving him cover, masked by a little cursory third person lecture on the poor manners of posting inflammatory anti-gun rhetoric on a gun enthusiasts forum. If hypocrisy was hamburgers, you'd put McDonalds out of business.

Originally Posted By: old colonel

While I fervently disagree with King and others on this board I cannot find it in my heart to hate them personally, however repugnant I may find their views.


You say you find King's views repugnant. Do you still see the anti-2nd Amendment sentiment you've discouraged him from posting here? King says he still doesn't see any... from himself... or his friend Ed Good, who says this:

Originally Posted By: ed good
if society, via our law makers, deem it necessary to restrict or prohibit our possession of certain classes of arms, then every good citizen should obey the law for the good of the majority.

and if some here wish to discuss further restriction and prohibition of certain classes of arms here, then why not?


Originally Posted By: ed good
as for the gun control issue...we are the only country in the world that seems to tolerate mass murder, in the name of an individual right...its about time that we as a society realize that we are over gunned with too many super dangerous weapons in the hands of too many super dangerous people... it is long past time to do as the rest of the civilized world has done and simply, disarm...


Originally Posted By: ed good
guess no body here has the balls to answer my question:


disarm...seems to work for the rest of the civilized world...

why not us?


Too bad you can't save and quote crap like that Gladys. Are you happy that you saved some verbal meanness directed toward someone who is trying diligently to erode my gun rights? Considering that we're celebrating Independence Day this weekend, that seems pretty tame when you consider that the colonists who had their gun rights threatened, and their breakfast tea taxed by the British, responded by revolting and shooting their adversaries. Are you so complacent that some silly notions about manners... even fake manners... is more important than our freedoms? I've heard many times that a crazy old Socialist in Nova Scotia poses no threat, but a deadly avalanche is made up of single snowflakes. I don't single King out. If there were a dozen other guys undermining our gun rights, lying to us, and denying their own anti-gun sentiments, I'd treat them exactly the same. Just ask Ed Good.

For a few moments there, you had me hopeful that you and I could perhaps have a truce, and an interesting and informative discussion on our double rifles. What the hell was I thinking?


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Gentlemen

This thread is about snipers and Canada. Please keep your comments restricted to things suitable for a Sunday such as long range head shots or your favorite dancer at the Windsor Ballet.


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BTW Keith on the subject of how factual your statements are within this thread as an example.

In you first response to me on this thread

Originally Posted By: keith
… You may have noticed that my first post within this off-topic and non Double Gun thread was in response to Walt Snyder when he said this:

Originally Posted By: Walter C. Snyder
So-- what does all this have to do with the moderators definition for the purpose of this forum?? Maybe better addressed in an another forum?? I thought this was a shotgun forum.



Actually you have a bad memory, you show as the third poster on page 1 of this thread when you attacked King

Originally Posted By: keith
With your imaginary pal John F. Kennedy as your spotter King, I have no doubt you could do better... offhand... shooting with the rifle facing backward over your shoulder, and sighting with a mirror.

Then after knocking off the leader of the Taliban at a paltry 3 miles or so, you both could celebrate with a glass of your award winning wine which was actually made by someone else.


Walter Synder did not post his statement until page 4 of this thread long after your page one post. Your post in support was on page five and was not your first post on the thread

You statement to me was wrong. I do not believe you were trying to deceive, I guess you make so many negative attacks you cannot remember all of them


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I note in you most recent post you claim which I think you believe is factual.

Originally Posted By: keith
....I don't single King out....


Just go and look at the innocuous exchange between El Garro and King at the beginning of tis thread:

Originally Posted By: El Garro
I'm hoping this won't turn into a political bunfight but, just read in the newspaper that a Canadian sniper has recently made the longest confirmed kill in military history by picking off one of the enemy at 2.14 miles with a Mc Milllan TAC-50 rifle.
Apparently, the round took over ten seconds from leaving the muzzle to hitting the target.

Before that shot, the record was 1.54 miles.
Mindboggling !


Originally Posted By: King Brown
It's mindboggling but not so much if factoring hits and misses and luck, according to persons invested in the craft I've been talking to. Taliban would have been using mountain trails and particular stops that snipers could have taped with hits and misses without Taliban around, similar to lines of fire in regular warfare. JTF-2 wouldn't have gone to all the confirming evidence otherwise, in my opinion. US and Canadian special forces have been working together for decades.


then your reply:

Originally Posted By: keith
With your imaginary pal John F. Kennedy as your spotter King, I have no doubt you could do better... offhand... shooting with the rifle facing backward over your shoulder, and sighting with a mirror.

Then after knocking off the leader of the Taliban at a paltry 3 miles or so, you both could celebrate with a glass of your award winning wine which was actually made by someone else.


Attacking a group of people you "hate" because of their statements may seem like not singling any one out but in practical terms actually is not much different.

I have no doubt you believe you are the aggrieved party in your exchanges with King. I think you have given better than you have ever gotten.

A truce all around would be a good thing

Truce or no truce reference double rifles, before the end of this 4th of weekend (before Midnight 4 July) when I get to the house and into the gun safe I will take pics of the Louis Christophe and Jules Bury double rifles and post on that thread.

I know you disagree with my view that most any of us on this board could sit down together, have a drink, find a way to get along positively.


Michael Dittamo
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