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Originally Posted By: King Brown
I caught the double fever here in (I think) 1985, started buying American doubles, a Parker among them and bought Peter H. Johnson's "Parker, America's Finest Shotgun." I took away from comments on the book that assistance would have been a big improvement.

It's a mystery to me why any author wouldn't ask another for criticism of a manuscript. Is it accurate? How about structure? Have I qualified properly those long reaches of opinion? Members here with ample skills would probably do it pro bono.

That's what friends are for. I'd put my manuscript into the hands of a person with general knowledge of the subject and the art of plain talk before an "editor" any day.



King, I think in most cases, a fee for service Editor would provide a better, more dependable, product than a friend.

When I hear of editing issues, I am reminded of the Sauer tome that was somebody's 2000 page life's work that was quickly panned by people as soon as it was published. A good editing might have turned that one into a "bible" for German gun fans.


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Originally Posted By: ClapperZapper
....A good editing might have....

Made me smile a bit CZ. You do know what happens when you hire a "readability" editor at a local college campus? It seems like like a tough spot between hoping to break even and going in the hole. I wonder if the next book gets put on hold if an author has to clear out their $129.95 pride and joy for twenty bucks. I don't know if it's so easy.

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keet: you solved da miss tre an won da prize...you been selected to edit mah book...for dis priv ledge, please send ten hun dred dollars bills, to cover in surance, shippin and handlin, to me, care of:

the right reverend billie saul harkus
po box 44 special
del rio, texas 78840

upon receipt of funds, ah will
send you ah dvd of the text in word processing format for your
edit and review...keet...ah am so happy for you an am so glad hit were you dat were so cleaver an earned dis rare opportunity...


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king: always best to leave the first edition of a new reference publication with a few flaws, omissions, and errors...that way, the nit pickers will tell you lots of what you already know...and they will also tell you what you dont know...soon as the info flow ebbs, you can then come out with a new addition...if you play it right you can really milk this revenue stream for a long time...


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In most cases, talking of self-publishing, you're right. Most anyone can clean up copy, though, friend or not. Professional writers I know, including an American National Book Award winner with a new unpublished work of historical fiction, have no ego when it comes to passing along their work for criticism to friends with distinguished credentials. I've often thought there are dozens of members who could produce a successful gun book for the general market from contributions here, if they put their mind to it.

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king: it already exists in digital form, including pictures...its called google search...

here is an example:

reilly shotgun search revealed this:

https://www.google.com/search?q=reilly+s...me&ie=UTF-8

absolutely amazing the knowledge we have at our fingertips...





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Originally Posted By: ed good
keet: you solved da miss tre an won da prize...you been selected to edit mah book...for dis priv ledge, please send ten hun dred dollars bills, to cover in surance, shippin and handlin, to me, care of:


Ed, I'd much rather proof-read or edit the fictitious book that King Brown told us about a few months ago... you know, the one he said he was collaborating on with someone else in order to change the public's attitudes towards firearms.

I didn't believe that cock-and bull nonsense when he posted it, and considering the sheer volume of anti-2nd Amendment and anti-NRA rhetoric he has posted here... I sure as hell don't believe it now. If he ever actually did write such a book, I'd hope that he would elaborate upon this wild-assed story:

Originally Posted By: King Brown
Joe was ahead of my time, Dave. The Kennedy boys were easy access. I was with Jack when he won the Wisconsin primary, breakthrough to becoming president, and campaigned as well with Robert and Teddy. Equal time with John Cabot Lodge's battles with JFK and Teddy. American TV crews used to ask why
I had higher security clearances than they did!


Remember, up until the time Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated, Security for U.S. Presidential Candidates was virtually non-existent. The Secret Service was not involved at all. Security at the Ambassador Hotel where Bobby was killed was a handful of rental cops from Ace Guard Service. But some here, including you Ed, believe his bullshit.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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really good bull shit is very believeable...


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Never heard of the book before. Had little interest in these "affordable" guns and passed them up at shows. But curiosity got the best of me and bought a used copy on line. I agree with the above comments that reading the book can be disorienting. You have to try to digest it in small bites. I read the chapter on Folsom since I was given one many decades ago. (Traded it for a Hollis 12 gauge with a broken hammer and thought I got the better of the deal).

There is a tremendous amount of information that I doubt you can find anyplace else. I learned the "Smithsonian" is a Folsom gun and not a museum piece. Niles passed away in 2012. There is an obituary on line. It would have been a real loss if this knowledge had passed with him. Keeping my eye out for a Knickerbocker No. 6.

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It appears the Book got published the year of Nicholas Niles' death. There may have been some hurry getting it done. I hope he got to see the finished product , which his obituary calls his life's work. Thanks, Mr. Niles

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