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Great pics Drew,

That rib in the first pic is fascinating, the way the stars as well as the crolle "flow". What do you think, a simple 2-iron rod that was somewhat drawn out after twisting?

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Originally Posted By: Ken61
Sure, I considered calling it "Herringbone". But, when I think of a herringbone pattern, I picture a little larger angle, shorter legs, and a fairly defined pattern. I opted for the more descriptive "Flame".

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Sorry Ken, I wasn't trying to name it, just using a descriptive term that could lead to why it shows the way it does. In your picture, I couldn't make out a center weld. If so, it may be a two rod bar with opposite twist, or it may be a single rod. Either way, I was just guessing as to what happened at the mill to create the pattern.

I also think Doc Drew's first picture of the rib was kind of neat. I see three rods. I think I see the pattern of each rod sort of pinned to the weld lines then a bit more draw towards the center of the rods, the twist area. Interesting pictures guys.

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The rib may also be a 3 Iron "Oxford" ribband, but the scrolls are smaller



4 Iron "Turkish" barrel with "Washington" rib


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Is this "Stub Twist?"

Excuse the crappy, grainy, shop picture. These tubes are from a heavy, 10ga Birmingham gun done in Brown & White marked "Laminated Steel". The pattern is somewhat different than regular Twist. The tubes are going through the last stages of pattern management before being polished and lacquered.




Any opinions?

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Ken,
I am not sure of the twist pattern. It does not look like the "stub" twist on some of my Ithaca guns.

What I do notice is that both barrels have the same Left Hand twist. Most all doubles are mated with one tube LH, one RH.

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Plain Twist/Skelp refinished by Paul Stevens. The thin iron (silver) and steel (brown) alternee are more distinct



Black & white



Stub Twist refinished by Paul Stevens



Stub Twist was made from a 1:1 ratio of horse-nail stubs (iron and the supply of which was inadequate by the 1850s) mixed with chopped coach spring steel, fused ("puddled") into a "bloom of iron", then hammer forged or rolled into a rod.

Plain Twist was not "puddled"

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BdbWHfJmr2EyvzcPybid7pwlEliH6m9pr1LxMESM3W0/edit

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Thanks, it looks like Plain Twist/Skelp. It's very similar to the Paul Stevens tubes. My picture doesn't do it justice, it also has a very nice patterned rib. Once it's done I'll take out my real photo gear and take it outside for a proper picture.

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Is anyone familiar with this pattern?



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3 Iron "Oxford". This has a somewhat similar rib but your scrolls are finer; refinished by Paul Stevens



Yours would be spectacular in "black & white" but as an English gun "browning" would be most appropriate

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Just an observation reference to Owen's gun. It also has a LH spiral in both tubes. Just doesn't look right to my OCD eyes.

John

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