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Here's another little fact for you to remember when you are tempted to let the Liberal Left Democrats chip away at your Constitutional Gun Rights.

64,000 Americans died from drug overdoses in 2016, and the number keeps increasing. That's over 1230 people every damn week. Yet these Liberal Left anti-gunners absolutely don't want a border wall on the U.S.-Mexican Border that would stem the flow of illegal narcotics and save more lives every week than these random shooting sprees take every couple years.

It isn't about saving lives. It's all about chipping away at the 2nd Amendment Rights of law abiding citizens until there is nothing left to give up. Wake up. And call your Congressmen and Senators. Join the NRA. Free men don't just give up the rights that tens of thousands died to preserve for us.

[quote=keith]"Also, the NFA of 1934 did not ban us from the possession of silencers or machine guns. It placed a $200 tax on them along with a background check.

The Las Vegas shooter was a multi-millionaire who easily passed numerous background checks, and could easily afford the NFA tax on restricted items. Ed Good's ideas are just as foolish as always."

Nowhere was it stated or implied that the NFA act of 1934 banned anything but if you do care about bump stocks & 60 round + magazines you had better hope that such items get put under NFA as opposed to being banned completely.

It's dammed hard to make the argument that modifications that (in the uninformed's mind), effectively turn a semi auto firearm into a full auto firearm shouldn't be be put into the same legal category as full auto firearms.

This "not give an inch" policy of the NRA & others is unrealistic & it is going to cost us all dearly in the long run.

I've been an NRA member since the early 60's & will continue to be a member but sometimes they fight the wrong battles & forget that winning the war is what is really important.

it also could be about living our lives, without fear of a maniac with the means to commit mass murder...

course there is the fertilizer bomb of the power of the one used to kill and maim hundreds of people in ok city a while ago...how does one guard against dat?

So should we ban any type of firearm that in the past been used for mass murder ? That would include more than a bump stock. What don't some morons understand - lay a gun on the table and see if it jumps up on it's own and starts shooting people. It's about personal responsibility , not an object. Over in Paris a truck was used. Where was Ed wanting trucks banned ?

Brittany Man, if you are concerned about what the Liberal Left is doing to persuade "uninformed minds", you might fight back by informing people that we already have thousands of firearms laws that are ineffective when people are being prescribed extremely dangerous psychiatric drugs that are known to have this suicidal/homicidal side effect.

You could inform them that there have been many other mass killings that killed as many, or more people, but didn't involve a firearm. Did you see the carnage in Belgium when a truck was ran into a crowded street. What would happen if a Semi-Truck had been ran into the same crowd in Las Vegas? Did you bother to look into the 1990 killing of 87 people at the Happyland Dance Club which used less than $1.00 of gasoline as the murder weapon? Many in the Liberal Media are lying to us and saying this is the worst mass murder in modern U.S. History when that simply isn't true. Do you recall the Beltway D.C. Sniper killings where the killers fired single rounds over a period of weeks? No bump stocks or large cap mags were needed.

And how about those drug overdose numbers and the Democrats staunch refusal to fund a border wall? Someone you know and love is much more likely to be affected by the illegal drugs coming from Mexico than they are to be shot by one of these psychopathic killers fueled by anti-depressant drugs. They are also much more likely to be murdered by someone let out of prison on parole by bleeding heart Liberals who think we incarcerate too many violent criminals.

If you have been an NRA member since the 1960's, you ought to remember what happened when the NRA gave in to the anti-gunners in 1968.

brittany: restricting certain classes of firearms is not a perfect solution to the problem of limiting access to certain firearms that can be used to commit mass murder...in the case of the vegas shooter, certainly he could easily have afforded the annual nfa tax...however, one does wonder if he could have repeatedly passed the annual nfa background check...

harm: the nfa of 1934 does not ban certain classes of firearms...it does discourage and restrict their possession by the general public...

one could conclude that since 1935, this effort to restrict and discourage the private possession of certain classed of firearms has been the reason why no nfa restricted firearms have been used to commit mass murder...

OK anti-gunner Ed, so how many people could he have killed in the same manner without bump stocks and large cap magazines that jammed? How many could he have killed by simply buying a Tractor Trailer and running that into a crowd of thousands?



You never told us why you haven't given up your guns Ed. Many people are afraid of all guns. Don't you think they have the right to not live in fear of an irrational clown like you?

so keet, do you have any thoughts as to what can be done to minimize future mass murder with firearms, such as what recently occurred in las vegas?

or is it as some have suggested: that tolerating mass murder with firearms, is the price we all pay, to protect our second amendment rights?

or is it the same thing as our freedom of the road? where we tolerate approximately 11,000 dead annually, from automobile accidents?

an keet, by now you should have figured out that personal attacks just weaken any argument you might advance...

try rational thought and discussion of alternative ideas...you may find it actually stimulating and therapeudic...