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brittany: the stars are aligning now as they did in the sixties, when leaders such as the kennedy brothers, ml king and george wallace were all shot because of their political agendas...the gun control act of 1968 was the federal governments knee jerk reaction...

good news is, that so long as pro gun politicians control congress and the white house, we will not see another draconian federal gun control law...

Brittany Man, the NRA essentially rolled over and did next to nothing to stop the onerous restrictions placed upon law abiding gun owners in 1968. Their almost complete inaction is what led to the 1977 Cincinnatti Reforms led by Harlon Carter that transformed the NRA into the staunch defender of Gun Rights that it is today.

It took many years and many millions of dollars in donations and dues for the NRA to roll back some of what happened when gun owners allowed anti-gunners to take away our rights. If you think I'm preaching to the choir here, it is because the choir hasn't paid attention to how the anti-gun lobby led by Liberal Left Democrats operates. I was about 9 years old when the GCA of 1968 passed, and first joined the NRA in the early 1970's as a freshman in my high school rifle club. You should know more about what actually happened in 1968 (and 1977) than me.

Do you still seriously think the likes of Chuck Schumer, and Barbara Boxer will give us silencers or suppressors and C.C. national reciprocity in exchange for us giving up bump stocks, large-cap mags, semi-auto assault style rifles, or the national registration scheme they call Universal Background Checks?

If you are seriously concerned about another GCA of 1968 getting shoved down our throats, don't you think you should let your Congressmen and Senators know that you won't tolerate any vote from them that takes away the rights of law abiding citizens? A couple e-mails to them will take no more time than your posts here. I hope anyone who ever thought about joining NRA will do it now. Or you could buy a gift membership for a young shooter in your family. A big jump in NRA membership sent a strong message in 2013. This is not the time to wring your hands and roll over. It is most definitely not the time to suggest incrementally giving up our Constitutional Rights... especially when those measures are agenda driven, and unlikely to save a fraction of the number of lives as some of the things that the Liberal Left totally ignores.

ra ra nra...but, gettin back on topic...uh ah forgot...jOe you watchin? if so, tell us what was the topic of this thread any how?

o yeah, now i remember...ban bump stocks and limit mag capacity to original design specs...im fur dat...how bout youse?

1934, pass a law due to mass killing. (St. Valentine's Day Massacre)

1968 pass a law due to assassinations.

1986 pass a pretty good law but let Charlie Rangel include a poison pill.

2017 pass a bill to ban a plastic buttstock due to mass killing.

Fed.god creates a registry
Fed.god closes registry.
Entrepreneurs find a legal method to imitate what Fed.god has taken away w/ consultation and input from Fed.god.

Fed.god then says 'That has to go.'
Fudds say, 'Well done!"

Keith,

I was a junior in college in 1968 & well aware of the politics & public mood at the time. Neither the NRA nor anyone else could stop the GCA of 1968. It could have been much worse w/New Jersey type firearms laws for the entire country.

If you are smart you don't fight battles you can't win & you regroup, try to gain public support & prepare for those that you can win.

We will come off very badly in supporting devices that the public perceives as allowing semi auto firearms to mimic full auto firearms just because we won't give an inch.

If you feel that strongly about having something full auto then go through the NFA process. I've got several neighbors that did that.

As far as negotiations, no chance if you don't make the attempt & we have nothing to loose at this point. "Bump stocks" & such just slipped under the rug & should have been under NFA from the get go. They appeal to the spray & pray want to be Rambo mentality that give us all a bad name & the fewer out there the better.

I am "out there".

The entire NFA should be repealed.

I am an atheist and agree with this.
No forcing of religion on anyone, but additionally no forcing religion away from anyone.

A semiautomatic rifle is one that fires one cartridge with one function of the trigger, and extracts/ejects and feeds another cartridge automatically. A fully automatic rifle fires more than one cartridge with a single function of the trigger. If you add a bumpstock to a semiautomatic rifle, it still only fires one cartridge with a single function of the trigger. It moves the rifle forward after the recoil of the previous shot moves it backward. This pushes the trigger into the finger, causing another function of the trigger. It does this much quicker than you can do it yourself. It does not make a semiautomatic rifle into an automatic one. If we don't resist, the left will have prohibited semiautomatic rifles for the first time , since the 90s. The left will no doubt add a provision prohibiting any rifle( or shotgun or pistol) that can be adapted to a "bumpstock". They will sneak it in right before the vote, to keep it out of the debate. If you don't believe it, you haven't been listening to them. Also, they want to expand background checks to include all private sales and gifts. The refuse to enforce the background check laws now. I have witnessed potential customers in a friend's shop, being turned down. I went back in a month later and asked if anyone picked up the 4473, to prosecute the person. He told me not only no, but they never do. Under the 68 GCA, just trying to buy a gun, as a felon, is another felony. Lying on the 4473 is yet another felony, but 2 felonys is not worth the FBI/ATFE's time. When the left claims background checks kept 3,000,000 people from getting a gun, that is not true. They just stole one or bought one from someone that stole it.
Mike

You do know that you are referring to a gadget, not a classification of firearm, don't you? Same question as for ed, what would make a 'friend' of sporting arms so susceptible to ideological talking points? As far as the use of such device in this particular crime, are we sure that it was used? Have investigators ruled out some other illegal conversion of a legal firearm. Or, does the 'voice of reason' dictate the those who are against the 2nd always get to choose the conversation? Again, what would make law abiding citizens scramble to help blame the inanimate object, when lefties don't really need the help.