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I wish you Rambo types would go off & read your Soldier of Fortune Magazine or better yet enlist in one of the services & then you can play with real full auto stuff!
I wish you folks wouldn't take a dump on other gunowners to preserve your little corner of gun ownership for a bit longer.
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Judging from some of the replies it's apparent that some here agree with Obamas justice department when they let the bump stock slip through a loop hole in the 1934 law...
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Breaking news...The NRA agrees with me.
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keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Only motive is the guy was sick in the head....a devil in his head.
Why speculate on his weapon choice it's already been brought out that the shooter was not that gun savvy....
I'd rather give up my right to own a bump fire stock and over standard capacity magazines than I would my right to own an AR 15 with standard issue magazines.
Speculation isn't helpful. You do not understand what goes on in the mind of a sociopath. Eliminating bump fire stocks isn't going to solve anything.
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well jager, it might not solve anything, but it may slow erm down...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Only motive is the guy was sick in the head....a devil in his head.
Why speculate on his weapon choice it's already been brought out that the shooter was not that gun savvy....
I'd rather give up my right to own a bump fire stock and over standard capacity magazines than I would my right to own an AR 15 with standard issue magazines.
Speculation isn't helpful. You do not understand what goes on in the mind of a sociopath. Eliminating bump fire stocks isn't going to solve anything. 3D Printer. . .
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Judging from some of the replies it's apparent that some here agree with Obamas justice department when they let the bump stock slip through a loop hole in the 1934 law... History of firearms innovation and law isn't your strong suit.
Mike
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There is no loophole. ATF definition of a MG is per the NFA of '34. Ie., the federal government owns the legal definition.
The Akins Accelerator was ruled a MG b/c it incorporated a spring. The spring was determined to be the "automatic action" feature (Perlmutter letter). The Slide-Fire stock and Hell-Fire trigger devices do not incorporate a spring, so are not MGs per ATF. This information, and the ATF letters, are searchable.
You can bump fire about any semiauto by matching the elastic characteristics of the trigger mechanism to........a shoestring.....a rubber band......or some practiced hand position. ATF are well aware of this fact. Type "ATF shoestring letter" into your search engine if you think I'm kidding. Certain devices make the process simpler to execute in quasi-seamless fashion.
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You cant regulate what goes on between someones ears. Many governments have tried. Our constitution does just the opposite.
No law will provide absolute assurance a mass murder wont happen. Any person of average intelligence can come up with more ways to kill than the government can come up with laws. A person bent on killing, without regard to his own life, is more than likely to succeed.
NFA didnt stop those two in North Hollywood from buying the parts and modifying their SKS rifles to full auto.
Bump stocks just replicate what happens when you hold a semiautomatic rifle loosely. Wait til someone demonstrates that On national tv.
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