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Off topic rifle, but I know someone here can answer my question. I've always admired the looks of the older Savage 1899s. I bought one in 303 Savage and it just has the trigger block/lever style safety mechanism. No top tang safety. How does this safety work?...Geo
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The Model 1899/99 has a small safety catch mounted on the bottom tang behind the trigger that blocks the trigger and also locks the lever closed. This is commonly called the "trigger safety," due to its location. In the 1960s, the Model 99 safety was changed and became a slider on the top tang. http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_99_rifles.html
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Do you push it forward to take it off safe or pull it back? I know that the cocking indicator on the top of the frame will come up when its off safety, but I don't have the rifle in hand yet. Does the "trigger safety" just block the trigger or does it prevent the action itself from coming into full cock/battery?...Geo
Read your Chuck Hawks reference. That explained it.
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Pushing forward will lock the lever and block the trigger The gun will be in full battery. See here Minute 1:23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdI69ZqDMBo
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Thanks; seeing it helped...Geo
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The cocking indicator should be up/exposed when the striker is cocked,,doesn't matter if the safety is ON or OFF.
You can relieve the mainspring tension on the 1899/99 by closing the lever and at the same time holding the trigger back.
It takes a little practice as the last little movement to skip the trigger & sear past the striker uses a bit of trigger manipulation,
But you can pull the lever shut and locked on an EMPTY chamber for storage and have the mainspring relaxed. Some folks like that idea.
Don't do this w/a round in the chamber as the firing pin will be down hard on the round/primer in the chamber.
The round will just be ejected anyway as you lever the gun to cock it so no advantage there anyway.
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Geo, all the talk on the general forum about "thinning the herd" was about guns, not deer.  They are great looking rifles, btw. You plan on handloading the round? Gil
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Geo, They are great looking rifles, btw. You plan on handloading the round? Gil I bought the dies...Geo Now if I can just remember where I put my Lee-Loader outfit.
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That one's been rode hard, put away wet....
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The cocking indicator should be up/exposed when the striker is cocked,,doesn't matter if the safety is ON or OFF. Kutter, thanks for the tip about releasing the mainspring. Your quote above is where my confusion lies. I got the impression from the ChuckHawke article and the video that the striker is not fully cocked if the safety is on, and that the safe has to be pulled back not only for the trigger to pull, but also for the lever to close fully and finish cocking the striker. Video shows the cocking indicator down when the safety is engaged?...Geo
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