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#494115 11/06/17 06:44 AM
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Was looking over their website and see size 7 in 20 gauge. Anyone use size 7's on Grouse/Pheasant? Always figured size 6 was too large and size 7.5 was a tad small for late season birds and thinking about picking up a case to try. Heck, didn't even know they made a size 7.


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Ha I was in the same boat as you earlier this year. I needed some 2.5 inch shells and the store I go to only had Gamebore 7's for the 20ga. They knock birds down and so far no birds have been shredded! Try them you'll probably like them.

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I used 20ga RST #6 2 1/2" 7/8oz paper on wild pheasants opening week in South Dakota, very satisfied with the results most birds dead in the air. My Fox liked the paper shells and fiber wads.

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RA, Gamebore 7's--being British--are like our 7 1/2's. Gamebore 6's are slightly larger than our 7's. About 6 2/3.

Tut, I use Brit 6's on pheasants, although almost always something larger in the tight barrel. Either those or 7's are pretty much all I've used on prairie grouse (early season) when I've hunted them. I have some RST 7's in 16ga, but have not tried them on pheasants yet. Back when I had an article assignment that I knew would involve the opportunity to shoot a lot of preserve pheasants, I loaded up a bunch of 3/4 oz 7's for my 28ga, choked IC/M. (Essentially same pellet count as an ounce of 6's.) After flat missing the first bird I shot at, I bagged 27 straight, including a couple true doubles. But I'll quickly add that I think I would have lost at least a couple of those birds had they been wild ones. Needed some good dog work to put them in the bag.

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I've not tried the RST #7 shot loads but anything made by RST that I've ever used was first rate.

That said, I shot handloaded 1 1/8 oz nickel plated #7 from (Ballistic Products) @ 1200 fps in a 12 ga for several years as a first bbl load for pheasant (.010" choke). It worked great on crossing & quartering shots where you could get shots into the front of the bird but on straight away birds it lacked penetration resulting in cripples that the dog had to chase down. I went back to the B&P High Pheasant 1 1/16 oz #5 for Pheasant & have stayed with that.

The nickel #7 I had seemed soft to me comparing it to Lawrence Magnum 7 1/2 shot so that might have been part of the problem.

I've shot a few grouse with 1 oz of the same nickel #7 & it worked fine but I could see no advantage over the usual 1 oz # 7 1/2 load

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I used RST #7's on quail and dove over the last couple of years. Anything bigger than a dove/quail and I drop down to #6 and #5.

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I don't use RST's, but handload lots of 7's and am hoarding the last of a flat of Winchester Heavy Dove loads that were offered in 7's. I find them an ideal shot size for both 12 and 20 for everything from quail to grouse (both ruffs and prairie). I consider them a tad light for wild pheasant but good for preserve birds.


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7's are my preferred shot for dove and wild quail. Seems to be significantly less crippling than smaller shot. I have heard this size shot is often used in International trap events.


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Tut,
I've used RST #8's for woodcock and grouse, but recently switched to #7's and like them more. I've used thier #5's for pheasants in North Dakota and they worked very well for me. My standard now is RST 2 1/2 1 oz. paper #7's in the right barrel and 2 1/2 paper #5's in the left barrel in 12 ga. and 7/8 oz. in the 20 ga. Both are choked the usual IC/MOD and fewer cripples. I've checked with Morris at RST and was told that his #7's are true #7's.
On long pokes with the left barrel, it's nice to have the #5's in there.
Karl

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Tut,

I use RST #7s in the first barrel at the start of the season for pheasant and quail. They work well on early season birds and are great for quail. I usually hunt in areas holding quail and pheasant.

Ken

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