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KDGJ #494166 11/06/17 06:50 PM
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I've used RST 7's on grouse and roosters, and handloaded 7's as well. As previously stated, I've always had high marks for RST loads. The
first rooster I killed with my French 16 was 7/8 of 7's , a January in Kansas. I think even Larry would consider that "late season."

7's are a versatile, somewhat underutilized shot size in my opinion.

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When we had a decent population of big tough native ringneck pheasants, I found that #6's killed with much more certainty than #7 1/2's. And later in the season when the birds tended to flush further out, I would switch to #5 shot, at least in the left barrel. I've never used #7 RST's and have never seen bags of #7 shot being sold in my area for reloading, but would like to try it on grouse. A little jump in the size of a lead sphere makes a big difference in kinetic energy at reasonable ranges.


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Originally Posted By: tut
Was looking over their website and see size 7 in 20 gauge. Anyone use size 7's on Grouse/Pheasant? Always figured size 6 was too large and size 7.5 was a tad small for late season birds and thinking about picking up a case to try. Heck, didn't even know they made a size 7.


Average pellet size difference between 7 and 7.5 being about 0.05mm to 0.1mm other than personal preference (I like rounded odd numbers) what practical difference is there? It would make more sense to have average pellet size expressed in mm instead of arbitrary numbers. While easier to tell the difference this can not be implemented because people would be less confused realize they need fewer pellet sizes and therefore buy less ammunition. crazy

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Wrong again Jagermeister. The size difference between American #7 and #7 1/2 shot is more like .18 mm

Since you have a problem with those complicated fractional numbers, maybe you could talk some manufacturer into producing a line of even numbered metric shot for easily confused dolts who do not own even one lousy double gun and don't hunt. It should be very popular among droolers and tire-kickers.


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I have tried RST's 2 1/2" 1oz. #7 spreader shells in my right barrel. RST loads great shells, however, the #7s just didn't do the job well for me. To many running cripples on pheasants. I went with Polywad English 2 1/2" 1oz. #6 spreaders in the right barrel and the problem was solved. My gun is a 1930 vintage C.G. Bonehill SLE 12 ga. with factory 2 3/4" chambers and is choked Mod. right tube and Full in the left barrel. I always have an RST 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz. #5 in the left tube, just in case. Last season I went to the rear trigger more than once and boy, the #5s knock a pheasant down with authority.

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Originally Posted By: keith
Wrong again Jagermeister. The size difference between American #7 and #7 1/2 shot is more like .18 mm


The problem is due to the fact that different countries producing shot shells often use different shot sizes assigning same or similar arbitrary shot numbers.
Shot size does make a big difference. I remember when I picked up my first shotgun and few boxes of shells some Winchester XX and Remington Peters. Not knowing anything about shot sizes I learned that red shells with XX were more effective while yellow ones weren't as good. Later I learned that Winchester were buffered #4 and Remingtons were 7.5.

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You're not in Warsaw trying to steal a kishka anymore Jagermeister. This is the U.S. of A. and we are discussing American loads produced by RST.

As you can see from this chart, #7 1/2 shot is mainly an American product.

http://www.hallowellco.com/shot_size_chart.htm

The information you provided is way off the mark once again, and the excuse you gave for being so inaccurate is just silly or dishonest. I'm not sure why you feel the need to post such absolute crap here when you don't own even one lousy double gun. Too bad you refuse to tell us the answer to that.


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Originally Posted By: keith
You're not in Warsaw trying to steal a kishka anymore Jagermeister. This is the U.S. of A. and we are discussing American loads produced by RST.

As you can see from this chart, #7 1/2 shot is mainly an American product.

http://www.hallowellco.com/shot_size_chart.htm

The information you provided is way off the mark once again, and the excuse you gave for being so inaccurate is just silly or dishonest. I'm not sure why you feel the need to post such absolute crap here when you don't own even one lousy double gun. Too bad you refuse to tell us the answer to that.


Thank you for providing that chart. I didn't know Europeans standardized their size into "European Size". In the past shot loaded in shells form Russia, Belgium, Germany, Spain, Italy..... did not show this uniformity.

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I like #7 shot

I have used size 7 magnum shot for both quail and pheasant with good result, though I do not suggest that 7 is good shot for other than close pheasant.

I did take pheasant with 16ga 1 oz #7 loads from an old 1898 side by side in South Dakota this year. All were shot under 25 yards.


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My favorite hand load for desert quail 20ga is 3/4oz load of #7s. Once I tried them the number of running cripples dropped off considerably from 7.5 and 8 shot loads. Don't know that I would favor them for pheasants but they were excellent on gray partridge in Idaho and Sharptails too.

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