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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
So, riddle me this...

How many times have we read that Brit #6 is 270 to the ounce?

All the noted scribes seem to think that's so, but show me anything 270/oz. here http://www.hallowellco.com/shot_size_chart.htm

Perhaps the nice neat little divisions in diameter aren't actually the case? The chart represents calculated values or actual measurement of commercial pellets? Or what?

Brit 6 (Am 7, or 'thereabouts') works peachy on overhead driven pheasants. It's not so peachy up the tailpipe of a going away bird. You might as well throw rocks.


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Jones, don't know about Hallowell. However, my Eley Shooter's Diary--and you'd think Eley, since they make British shotshells, would know what they're talking about--has a nice little chart showing 1 oz 6 = 270 pellets. I do not know on what that number is based. But I've killed a fair number of wild American roosters over dogs using Brit 6's in Kent Gamebore's Pure Gold 30 gram (1 1/16 oz) in open choked R barrels, around .005-.006 constriction. Being the curious type, I've opened a couple of those loads and done a pellet count. "Book" total is 287. I get about 275. Checking the pattern at 25 yards, I'm putting about 230 hits in a 30" circle. That's not a load I'd pick for pheasants at 40 yards, but I don't shoot many at that range. And if I do take a poke at one, I have a heavier surprise for them in the tighter choked L barrel.

Woops! Intended to merge the above with Jones' quote. Operator error!

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So, Kent's #6 is a little oversize. This is assuming there's really 1 1/6 ounce there, and that they did correct their volumetric measure for whatever density the stuff is.

Holding it to a few percent variation is actually pretty good.

Expanding this discussion further, why are there still differences in shot size internationally? Cartridges are standard, how come we can't agree on shot size?

Even if the goofy metric system plays a part here, pellets per some arbitrary unit volume should all have the same gauge number.

Somebody needs to market an American size 5 1/2 pellet at 195 to the ounce. If we can have a bazillion similar rifle calibers, why not a 5 1/2 pellet? I predict instant success.


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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones


Somebody needs to market an American size 5 1/2 pellet at 195 to the ounce. If we can have a bazillion similar rifle calibers, why not a 5 1/2 pellet? I predict instant success.


Now that's funny!

I agree, a #5 1/2 would be an instant hit, and would generate tons of raving testimonials to its' magical effectiveness and perfect pattern density... no matter what choke or velocity or bore launched it.


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Jones, I remember doing a pellet count on a Kent load (not Gamebore) of 6's. Came out in the 190's/oz range. And they were visibly larger than 6's. (Talking US shot sizes here.) Maybe not intended to be so, but they were actually 5 1/2's.

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I don't shoot a lot of them in a year, but do use the RST #7's as a second shot in my old Flues. Mostly in more open areas if I suspect more of a chance at a Grouse than a Woodcock. Though based on my guessing ability I should just say I use them as my second shot at either regularly smile

Great pattern out of either barrel, choked roughly SK and IC. You can buy a mixed case and try them. I have shot a little of everything that way. Giving the pattern board or Sporting clays course a workout in the summer helps pass time until sesason.....

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I'm using Kent 20ga TM 6s over decoys with satisfactory results.

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