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Buzz, I tracked the guns Cabela's currently lists. Their Glendale store has a 12 at 7 3/4. I think that's the source of the weight you saw on GA (or else, as suggested above, it's a misprint). I found 2 20's with 28" barrels--Sidney store, weight listed at 5/9. (Pretty sure the one I handled was not quite that light.) Hamburg, same gun--6#. There's an obviously messed up listing at the Lacey store for a 28ga, with a listed weight of 7#. Since there are no 28ga A Grades being made, I tossed that one out.

If it is really an RBL, then the weight should be 6 to 6 1/4 lbs. as that seems to be the typical weight of an RBL.

The 20-gauge reviewed in the American Rifleman is listed as weighing 6 pounds 3 ounces, exactly what my straight grip, double trigger, slim forearm Launch Edition RBL weighs, and FWIW, exactly what my 1913-vintage, 20-gauge, 28-inch barrel, Ansley H. Fox A-Grade weighs. I was going to read the American Rifleman article on the new "FOX" but threw it down after the glaring error in the first paragraph. At least not a picture of a vent-ribbed Parker as in their recent article on L.C. Smith!! What a rag it has become!!

Larry,
The Cabelas in League City, Texas has a Merkel 47E case colored 20 ga. for $4000.00. Even at $4500.00, the new Fox A seems unrealistic.
Karl

Karl, I'm a Merkel fan. Looks like somebody already snapped that one up. But it's not new, is described as having some pitting and rust in the bores, doesn't have choke tubes, and doesn't have a case. Can't say which way I'd jump on an A Grade vs that Merkel--assuming the pitting and rust can be cleaned up easily (and I'd be surprised if that's a real problem on that gun). But it does make one wonder what you'd find if you took the action apart.

I think I brought this up several months ago after returning from CSMC. The sales rep informed me they are currently running the new Savage "fox" since I put him on the spot asking when they'll be closing up shop.
I was informed that the the new fox is based off the RBL with a good price point. If anyone is interested, The sales rep tried to put me into another RBL, and stated to me to make offer, And kept telling me he can discount the gun. I did not pursue or ask any further. Not sure but too me they are discounting there inventory and th deal appears to be with there limited inventory of RBLs.

IT AINT A FOX!

Neither is a Fox Model B. But Savage is selling them, and Savage owns the name . . . so they can call it whatever they want. Kinda like SKB's from Turkey aren't the same as the Japanese guns; Webley & Scotts from Turkey aren't the same as the British guns. And the LC Smiths Marlin had made recently aren't the same as original Elsies. But again, Marlin owns the name.

The shotgun boys at another forum were about to throw in a towel seeing MSRP of 5000. I had to use all my persuasion telling them about time proven Anson & Deeley of WR and how it withstood test of time since 1875. I predicted price will settle on what Euro Optik sold Merkel Bros. 47e and 1620s for. They are eagerly awaiting result of your evaluation.

OK OK, I give up...So if Remington owned the name PARKER, they could stamp an 870 "A1Special" and guys like Last Word Larry would run to Walmart on Black Friday and buy one, and brag about it? IT AINT A FOX..IT AINT A PARKER and I don't care..