doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Off topic. IS a $1000. scope or Binocular worth it

Really, that's hard to believe. Especially when your credibility sucks. Can you see into the future with them? If so, do you ever see a day when you will own even one lousy double gun? I suppose you might have "repackaged" them with some Tasco lenses.

By the way, are you really Ed Good posting under another name? Another member here thinks you are Ed, and that you are a sad, fictional, pathetic, and lonely old man who just likes to Troll. That does seem plausible.

Can you confirm that?

Give you a few observations not mentioned. You want Binoculars to suit the job . Standard marine glass has always been a 7x50. Lower power less shake from engine vibrations good low light ability size and weight not important, they usually ride in a fitted box on the bridge, Lower power easier on,your eyes scanning. Hunting most game same thing applies except you want a smaller glass with less bulk and weight 7x30 is a good choice. It�s no accident WW II the Navy used a 7x50 while the Army carried a 6x30 in the field .

Bird watchers use much higher power the target is small & most take a quick look to identify a bird add it to their list then move on. 10 power bird watchers binocular will tire your eyes scanning. There could be good use for a high power glass varmit hunting but spotting scopes much better for small animals. Deer size game you don�t need high magnification

I use 4 glasses Swarovski 7x30 general use & a very small pair of Swarovski 8x25 for very light weight use. Either one a top glass probably no better than other top brands. Other two are Vintage B&L , 7x50 Bureau of ships and a Army issue 6x30 both restored.The old glasses are nearly as good visually as the Swarovskis not water resistant or fog proof like a new glass. Lens not coated,they will flare in adverse light .

Biggest mistake in a binocular is too much power. Thing that affects what you see the most is objective lens size. Bigger the better until it�s too big to carry.

Boats

Newer scopes will blow your mind. Look into the clarity and the amount of light the Burris and vortex scopes have to offer with a lifetime warranty. It's incredible!

#1 on what Boats posted re power.

My general purpose glass is the discontinued Swarovski 7x30 SLC. My wife uses the same vintage Swarovski 8x30 SLC. Both are nice general purpose glasses but I prefer the 7x30.

We also have a Swarovski 10x50 SLC which is nice for long range/low light glassing as long as you are close to the truck (heavy suckers which helps dampen the shake).

I have always spent the bulk of my optics money on higher end glasses & spotting scopes & have been satisfied with the Leupold VX-3/ Vari-X3 series of rifle scopes.

If I was going to do long range shooting using target type adjustments for POI I might look into more expensive rifle scopes to get more precision/repeatability in POI adjustments but in my view top optical quality much is more important in glasses than it is scopes

In using binoculars, anchor the binoculars to your face by squeezing your thumbs underneath your cheekbones. Simple, but effective and you probably already knew this. Captain Obvious

My deer are all coming out of the bat caves they must live in at about 5:50pm. I've already shot my little buck for the season, and GA law requires the 2nd one to be 4 pts. on one side, or better. Since it's dang near dark before I see them, I've decided that if you have to have binoculars to see if they're big enough, they aren't...Geo

The above technique will definitely help but if you are wearing a reasonably tight fitting cap with a bill, pulling the binocular & bill together so you are using your head to help stabilize the binocular works very well.

Serial number G053145 indicates 1989 as year of manufacture. Special eyepieces allow FOV of 7.5 degrees with eye relief of 20mm. FMC glass surfaces assure bright clear image under difficult atmospheric conditions plus at dawn and dusk.

Buy the best quality your finances allow, keep a 7mm exit pupil diameter, with as high power as keeps the 7mm. Use roof prism, as they are lighter for the same power, and where possible, get rubber armored. If possible, use a scope that matches the Binocular, if not possible, the Binocular is most important. The glass is for the last 5 min. of the hunt( in the morning, it is getting lighter). My "wish" would be for 8x56 roof prism rubber armored Zeiss. Not being able to afford Zeiss, I would select the same features in a "lesser make". At the end of the day, with 7mm exit pupil in 8mm Binoculars; what you can see at 10m with your naked eye ,you can see at 80 with the glasses. You can see a deer with much less glass, but can you see if it is a doe or button buck, can you tell if it is 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 years old.
Mike

Several years ago; I was with a group of guys, and we were all sitting in our lawn chairs looking out at a lake where the water skiers were being pulled.
By coincidence, we all had a pair of binoculars: (We are all deer hunters).
Anyway, I looked through everyone's binoculars, and the older guy said "Try These" They were Zeiss 8X56's.
WOW! The Haze went away, and I could see way more clearly.

Then, a few years later, I was in a Cabela's in Sidney, NE, and looked at binoculars: The employee said "The Zeiss 8X56's show more in darkness than the second generation Night Binoculars."

Bubba; you pays for what you gets.