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25711. (1883)




Excuse me? $27,500-42,500? are those US dollars?

MASSIVE 8 BORE E. M. REILLY DOUBLE RIFLE WITH CASE AND AMMUNITION, SUBJECT OF DOUBLE GUN JOURNAL ARTICLE.
SN 25711. Cal. 8 Bore. (.850 Groove diameter, 11 grooves). 3-1/4″ Chambers. 28″ Fine Damascus bbls are fitted with broad file cut matted rib (with dolls head extension), holding one standing, three folding leaf express rear, and small silver bead front, sights. Tops of bbls are engraved “E. M. Reilly & Co” and “502 New Oxford St. London”. Bbl flats are stamped with London black powder proofs for 9 bore, and with SN. A large sling eye is soldered to bottom rib. Robust round bodied underlever action is fitted with peninsula back locks having large rebounding round bodied serpentine hammers, and front sliding safety bolts which engage at half cock. Rifle was originally of very plain finish with only border engraving and a few sprays of scroll around pin holes on locks. Rifle has had extensive gold damascened embellishment consisting of 3/4″ floral and foliate bands at muzzles with 1/8″ bands around breeches, as well as line and beaded borders on action and locks which also have some extra areas embellished with scroll. Top of right bbl was also damascened “H. H. Maharana Shree Warhatsingji Loonawara”
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Earlier I mentioned a percussion rifle (single barrel) I still have with a skull and cross bones and "Veni, Vedi, Vici" engraved. It seems to have gotten smaller while hiding in my safe!

Bore is just over .700, so perhaps 13 bore. Two groove, so made for those "waisted bullets". A ball with a "belly band" and a short pointed bullet with two rectangular "bumps" are in the patch box which is engraved with what I think is a red deer. Fixed leaf marked 100. Flip up rear sight leaves for 150, 200, 250 and 300.

Lock marked "Reilly", barrel marked "Reilly,New Oxford Street, London", serial number is 8025.

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1847 - JC Reilly and the "7000" series


Terry, 8025 is the earliest "Reilly" (not JC Reilly) found after their move to New Oxford street and calls into question my theory that EM started renumbering 8400...unless this is a JC Reilly in plain "Reilly" livery. Amazing. What is your opinion? When did waisted bullets come out? Might this be a J.C. Reilly? (I'm starting to lean towards this - He seemed to have concentrated on percussion guns after he got to New Oxford Street.). Would love to see pictures.

edit: Preliminary research shows that one of the first experimental 2 groove rifles was used in Ceylon in 1845. This would seem to put Reilly's adoption of the system after 1847 move to New Oxford street possibly indicating 8025 is a J.C. Reilly in the "7900 series".

https://www.classicshooting.com/blogs/re...the-paradox-gun

Excerpt: "The earliest in the field of progress was the old-established firm of Purdey and Co. Mr. Purdey, before the general introduction of breechloaders, brought out an Express rifle, No. 70 bore, with a mechanically fitting two-groove solid bullet. This small projectile was a well-pointed cone weighing exactly 200 grains, with a powder charge of 110 grains, more than half the weight of the bullet. The extremely high velocity of this rifle expanded the pure soft lead upon impact with the skin and muscles of a red deer. At the same time there was no loss of substance in the metal, as the bullet, although much disfigured, remained intact, and continued its course of penetration, causing great havoc by its increased surface. Nothing has surpassed this rifle in velocity, although so many improvements have taken place since the introduction of breechloaders, but in the days of muzzle-loaders it was a satisfaction to myself that I was the first to commence the heavy charge of powder with the 3 ounce bullet and 16 drams, to be followed after many years by so high an authority as Mr. Purdey with a 200 grain bullet and 110 grains of powder, thus verifying the principle of my earliest experience."

edit 2: Terry Buffum said that 8025 has the feel of an EM Reilly. He said JC's stocks tended to be straight grained and somewhat dull. EM used more interesting maple (and a lot of French maple later on). I still am not yet ready to abandon the 8400 mark for EM on the move to New Oxford Street. It's possible that EM stocked 8025 while JC made it.

Still, I feel a little like I'm trying to squeeze facts into a pre-constructed theory based on 8463 and that "Removed from Holborn" label. We'll continue to gather data. and I have a feeling a lot of it is still in Terry Buffum's safes.

Any info turn up on the other two of your guns of historical interest Terry, 1869 and 3402? Address on ribs? Pictures?

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I'm bothering the cognoscenti again. I thought at some point to turn the above research into something more concrete. It was recommended by a couple of the DBS usuals that I wrap it up and write an article for "Double Gun Journal." Two questions:

1). The following article appeared in Summer 2015 edition of DBJ. "E. M. Reilly: Purdey’s Pretentious Rival" by John Campbell II

I cannot read it. There has been a lot of misinformation on Reilly put out in the past. Some corrected in this line. I fear this article might have propagated some of it ...or it might be excellent. Can someone please forward this article to me for review?

2). How would I go about contacting DBJ with an outline of a piece on Reilly history to see if they'd be interested? The web site doesn't give a clue. Many thanks, Gene.


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You should contact Daniel Côte (DGJ publisher, editor, artist, etc.). The article inluding pictures is 12 pages. The contact number is 231-536-7439.

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I ordered DBJ summer 2015 edition to get access to John's 12 page article. Authors and writers deserve to be paid for their work.

Afterwards a friend forwarded an advanced copy of that DBJ report, The first three paragraphs are riddled with errors. There are some neat interviews and historical photos there. But....

I don't want to start an internet fight but DBS readers - rest assured on this line you have the best historical record of Reilly anywhere,

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22220&page=2

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Speaking of errors .................DBJ? Don't you mean DGJ?

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touché mon ami. Tu as raison!

But really I went into reading this DGJ article with hope and came out with a feeling that the most historically important part of it was just baloney. There are some good things in John's article. I never found photos of the family,.etc. But how can you construct a history of gun building based on such erroneous information? Look..let's have an adult conversation about this (ok ok impossible on the internet).

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Edit: This post is now somewhat outdated - see p. 20

The Reilly SN’s have been arranged below in an easier order to help people date their guns. There are minimal descriptions of the guns below and these concentrate on history. There are more complete descriptions in the postings above and for the links which have gone dark, I have most of the original ads and photos. Also, there are about 30 Reilly’s which have been posted on the internet without the SN’s. For the most part I’ve left these out. All have Damascus barrels unless otherwise specified. Most important “marker" dates and SN’s are in Red. The year dates are obviously estimates but they will get a user close..perhaps within a year of when his gun was numbered. (Please remember that these are estimates based on data at hand....about 200 serial numbered Reilly's have been found out of some 31,000 built over 90 years - with about another 30 guns known but with SN's not published...a decent sample. As more guns appear, some of this might change).

1820’s - August 1935. 0 - 1000? JC Reilly was a Silverplate worker at 12 Middle Row, Holborn aka Holborn Bars which he opened in 1816. He was identified as a “gun maker” in 1829 in an ad. He left Holborn Bars in August 1835. Very few examples of his work from his time at Holborn Bars are extant.

….162 - J.C. Reilly, Holborn Bars, London. 14 bore. Shotgun; percussion, single-barreled muzzle-loader
….176 - J.C. Reilly, Holborn Bars, London. ,50cal. Pistols; Pair of percussion dueling pistols (Buffum)
...254 - J.C. Reilly? (no address mentioned). Percussion pistol per Terry Weiland article.
..xxxx - J.C. Reilly, Holborn Bars, London. 14bore. Sporting gun. Single barrel, muzzle loader. "highly figured stock" (Picture)
..xxxx - J.C. Reilly, Holborn Bars, London. .45 Cal. Pistol, 14cm long muzzle loading, steel barrel, percussion pocket

August 1835 - March 1847. 1000 - 3500? In August 1835 he moved to 316 High Holborn. By 1840 his 24 year old son EM was a gunmaker and shortly around that time became partner (actual date not known). About 2500? guns numbered over 17 years - 145/year, 12/month? note: By about 1840, possibly earlier - certainly by SN 1800, Reilly no longer numbered pistols in his long-gun chronology. He did not number guns he did not build. . Note: A number of internet sources claim 316 High Holborn was the former shop of Joseph Manton. Nowhere can this be verified - another internet "urban legend."

..xxxx - Joseph Charles Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 50cal. Pistol; Percussion single-steel barrel muzzle loader
..1024 - Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 8.5mm. Pistol; Percussion hammer gun, steel barrel, pocket pistol
..1174 - J.C. Reilly (no address). 8 bore. Fowling piece; Percussion single shot, single barrel, muzzle loader.
..1272 - Reilly, London, 120 bore, Pistol; steel barrel, percussion miniature pocket pistol.
..1869 - (unknown) 10 ga. Shotgun; SxS; Percussion, hammer gun, muzzle loader (Buffum)
..xxxx - J.C. Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 10 bore. Shotgun; SxS; Percussion hammer gun, Muzzle loader "highly figured stock" (pic available)
..xxxx - Joseph Charles Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 10 bore? Shotgun; SxS; Percussion hammer gun, Muzzle loader.
..3329 - J.C. Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London, 10 ga/.58 cal. Shotgun; SxS; Percussion hammer gun. Muzzle loader
..3392 -Joseph Charles Reilly, 316 High Holburn, London. 10 ga/.58 cal; Shotgun; SxS; Percussion hammer gun, Muzzle loader.
..3402 - (no name mentioned); .577 cal, Rifle SxS; Percussion hammer gun, Muzzle Loader (Buffum).

Mar 1847 - Mid 1850’s: In March 1847 Reilly’s moved to 502 New Oxford Street. There seem to be two branches of SN’s after this move. One perhaps reserved for JC 7000-8400. The other mainstream SN chronology perhaps supervised by EM started in 1847 at 8400. (both are suppositions) But take a close look - there is 3514 from the "old" original chronology with the Oxford address; there is 7021 with the Holborn address. And there is 7201 with the Oxford address and "removed from Holborn" - i.e. 1847.

Mar 1847 - 1858/9? : 7000-8200?? "JC Reilly reserved series"? In 1858 JC would have been 72 years old, In 1859 "EM" appeared on gun ribs and advertisements perhaps marking JC's total retirement. (The fact that "Edward M. Reilly - Gunmaker" exhibited in 1851 at Crystal Palace, not "Reilly," perhaps reinforces this idea of a split in Serial Numbers as EM, the new wave, enamored with breech-loaders gradually took over). Terry Buffum believes JC Reilly stocks were more straight lined-less figured than EM's - EM's use of highly figured French walnut was a trademark of sorts commented on by others. The few surviving photos of JC stocks, though, do show some figured wood.

..7023 - J.C. Reilly, 316 High Holborn, London. 11bore. Shotgun SxS. Muzzle Loading hammer gun. (Note 7000 series but with Holborn still on the rib)
..3514 - Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London. 13bore. Shotgun SxS. Muzzle loader, hammer gun (1855-59 case label)
..7201 - Joseph Charles Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London; .577 cal; Rifle, Single barrel, percussion hammer gun, Muzzle loader. "Removed from Holborn"
..7801 - Reilly, New Oxford Street, London; 28 bore; Walking cane gun.
..7869 - J.C. Reilly, New Oxford St. London; 12 ga; Shotgun; SxS percussion hammer gun, muzzle loader (Buffum).
..8025 - Reilly, New Oxford St. London; 13 bore; Rifle; Percussion hammer gun, Muzzle loader (Buffum). (marked Veni, Vidi, Vici)
..8052 - Reilly, New Oxford St., London. 20 bore. Rifle. Percussion hammer gun, muzzle loader. (marked Veni, Vidi, Vici)

Post Mar 1847-1859 8400-10900?- This appears to be the main-line Reilly SN sequence, probably run by EM though JC appears from time to time. “Reilly” is the name on the ribs. The stocks became flamboyant. Two guns below have “Removed from Holborn” (Moved from Holbon) indicating an early 502 Oxford Street provenance (within months of the move?). - in his newspaper announcement of his move in March 1847 he used the words "will be removing" and in a follow-on ad after the move to Oxford street in Fall 1847 he used the words "Removed from Holborn"....

As for numbers, from 8400 in Mar 1847 to 10782 in 1858-9, it looks like Reilly's numbered some 2500 guns more or less in a little less than 12 years + the 1,000 odd produced by JC Reilly per above. About 240 numbered guns a year in the main SN line. 20/month. (numbers are adjusted hypothetically below to allow for an increase in production numbers over time)

1847: 8400-8580?

..8463 - Reilly, New Oxford Street, London (“label-J.C. Reilly, removed from Holborn"); .390 cal. Rifle; Enfield percussion, double express, muzzle loader
..84xx - Reilly. 502 Oxford Street, London; 6 Bore; Shotgun, single barrel, percussion, hammer gun, muzzle loader.
..8578 - J.C. Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London (“removed from Holborn”); 10 bore; Shotgun SxS; hammergun, muzzle loader

1848: 8580-8760: . EM Reilly published his famous Treatise on air guns; author was identified as "Reilly, Junr - gun maker; No. 502 New Oxford Street;Removed from 316, Holborn." Edit: Internet has EM publishing this in 1850...the "removed from holborn" is key - It means it probably was published in 1847 - I'll leave 1848 as a compromise)

1849: 8760-9040:
1850: 9020-9200
1851: 9200-9400 Crystal Palace London exhibited as "Edward M. Reilly"; air-guns, etc; influenced by Lefaucheaux center break guns at the exhibition..
1852: 9400-9600;
1853: 9600-9800; .577 muzzle loading Enfield adopted by British Army; Lang produces first Brit Center-break gun designed by Hodges, copy of Lefraucheaux.
1854: 9800-10040
1855: 10040-10280; 1855 Paris Exposition Universelle. Exhibited as "E.M Reilly, 502 New Oxford St, London - Guns, rifles, etc." received much acclaim. London 1851 and Paris 1855 medals appear on his labels
1856: 10280-10520

10315 - Reilly, New Oxford Street, London; 6bore. Shotgun; Single barrel percussion hammer gun, muzzle loader.
10354 - Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London; .400 cal. Rifle; SxS double breech loader. (Extensive conversion 1885; 1st surviving center break gun if SN is accurate.)

1857: 10520-10760

10619 - Reilly (no details); .380 cal; Rifle, Single barrel, percussion, hammer gun, muzzle loader, “Park Rifle”
10621 - Reilly, London; .376 cal. Rifle; Single barrel, percussion hammer gun, muzzle loader.
10670 - Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London; ?? Cal. Rifle; SxS; Percussion hammer gun, muzzle loader.

1858: 10760-11000

10782 - Reilly, New Oxford St. London. .577 cal; Rifle; single barrel breech loader, Frederic Prince patent (1855 patent).

1858/9 - 1862: 10970 - 13300 EM began to use his initials in advertisements and on gun ribs 1859. He also opened 315 New Oxford Street aka 315 Oxford Street, London (1859 advertisement containing by "EM" and "315") (see Reilly SN 12079). From 1858/9 to 1862 (See 13333, Green brothers marker below) he numbered 2,200 guns. 500/year. 40 a month. Even though he was noted as a breech loader innovator, most of the surviving guns are Muzzle loaders. The gun community was notoriously traditionalist.

(Note: "Edward M. Reilly" per internet was the name of the firm for awhile. Well this name appeared on some gun ribs in the 1850's, none serial numbered.
.....-- various percussion and multi-barrel pistols labeled "Edward M. Reilly 502 New Oxford Street,"
.....-- British Pattern 1858 .577 Enfield percussion short rifle muzzle loader.
-- He also exhibited at the 1851 Crystal Palace fair in London as "Edward M. Reilly, New Oxford St., London - Gunmaker, assortment of double guns, rifles, air-canes, pistols," etc.
-- However, I can find no ads, or mainline Serial Numbered guns with "Edward M. Reilly" on the ribs. And he exhibited at the 1855 Exposition Universelle in Paris as "E.M. Reilly, 502 New Oxford St., London..." Thus, unless someone turns up more evidence,
it looks like "Edward M." or "Edward Michael" was used only informally and that the story of there being an "Edward M. Reilly" company is just more Reilly urban legend. What is clear is that in
-- 1858 an ad identified the firm as "Reilly, 502 New Oxford St., and an
-- 1859 advertisement that identified the firm as "E.M. Reilly, 502 New Oxford with a branch establishment at 315.."


109xx? - E.M. Reilly & Co., London; 16 bore; Shotgun SxS; underlever centerbreak breech loader. (1st gun with "EM" on the rib)
11115 - E.M. Reilly & Co., London. 12ga shotgun SxS, early Jones underlever center break hammergun.
11227 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford St., London; .577 cal. Rifle; Enfield, percussion hammer gun, Muzzle loader
11645 - Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London. 100 bore; Rifle. Prince patent, single barrel, breech loader,
11651 - E.M. Reilly, Oxford St., London. .577 cal; Enfield type, percussion muzzle loader converted to Snider breech loader.
11xxx - E.M. Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street London (Reilly on case); 11mm. 4 smooth barrel, percussion, muzzle loader
12069 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 315 & 502 Oxford Street, London; .451 cal. Rifle; Percussion, muzzle loader. (1st "315" on a gun rib)
12532 - E.M. Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London; 12 ga. Shotgun SxS. Gilded hammer gun, muzzle loader.
13033 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London; 20 bore; Shotgun SxS; Jones underlever, Percussion hammer gun (Buffum)
13194 - E.M. Reilly, London. 12 ga. Shotgun SxS. back action hammer gun (parts only)(Back action must be a later addition)

1862 - Feb 1868: 13300 - 15250 London exhibition. From SN 13333 firmly identified as 1862 to 15270 firmly identified as Feb 1868, he numbered almost 2,000 guns. About 340/year. 27/month.

13333 - E.M. Reilly & Co. 502 New Oxford St., London; .577 cal. Rifle; percussion breech loader, Gun 23 of Green Bros 1862 patent - firm date.
13590 - E.M Reilly & Co., 502 New Oxford Street, London. 10 bore; Rifle SxS; Percussion hammer gun muzzle loader.
13599 - E.M. Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London. 12 bore; Rifle SxS; 2 groove Percussion double express Hammer gun, muzzle loader.
13688 - E.M Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London; 20 bore; Shotgun SxS. underlever hammer gun.
14115 - E.M. Reilly (nothing further - no photos, etc). Shotgun SxS; Center break, Jones under leaver, hammer gun.
14580 - E.M. Reilly & Co. London. 12 ga. Shotgun SxS; Percussion hammergun, Muzzle loader.

1866:: 14540?-14900? 1866 British army formally adopted the .577 Snider Enfield as a stop-gap breech loading rifle. Reilly built Sniders and converted some Muzzle-loading Enfields to the Snider action. Any Reilly Snider should be 1866 or later. However, unless he built them to measure, he did not seem to number them.

1867: 14900?-15240? Huge Reilly success at Paris exhibition that summer; Gold medals appear on labels;

14985 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London. 16 ga. Shotgun SxS; Sidelock, underlever hammer gun, (Buffum).
15129 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 502 Oxford St. London. 12 bore. Shotgun SxS; pinfire, hammer gun, muzzle loader.
15143 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 502 Oxford St. London, 12ga. Shotgun SxS; underlever, hammergun.
15239 - E.M. Reilly & Co. New Oxford St., London. .577. Rifle, Snider-Enfield 2-band; Birmingham proof.

Feb 1868 - Aug 1886: 15270-27340? In Feb 1868 he opened Rue Scribe, Paris. Many of his guns subsequently had the Paris address. 15270 is the first gun with Rue Scribe. He closed it in Late 1886. 27340 is the last gun with Rue Scribe. Note: Internet "urban legend" has him closing Rue Scribe in 1872 including one author of an article in DGJ. A glance at ads and gun ribs below show this is just poor scholarship. 18.5 years. 222 mos. 12,100 guns. = about 55/mo. 660/yr. (this is a guess estimate but a good one).

There are some guns early on in the 1868-86 series that perhaps should be later in the date series - I'm thinking of the 1871 Martini Henry which seems a bit early for him to have produced and the 1873 gun that has a Needham’s Patent 18547 (which may or may not be C1874). This would indicate a production of fewer guns early on and more later.

This is a long stretch of time; The only way to narrow down the year dates is to check patents on the guns. If people look inside their Reilly's which have SN's during this period, would appreciate info on these patents - use of which (not non-use) could alter the above chronology - And I'm already thinking of altering the chronology a bit to allow for fewer guns produced early in the period and more at the end):
1872 - Patent: Anson's fore-end fastener patent no. 3791
1874 - Patent: Needham patented a hammerless, barrel-cocking gun which was also the first ejector in 1874.
1875 - Patent: W.M. Scott's patent 3223
1875 - Patent: Anson & Deely patent; the first hammerless gun with top lever.
1878 - Patent: Mills 3rd bite patent no 4980
1878 - Patent: Patent Number 761 was recorded by William Middleditch Scott and Thomas Baker


Feb 1868-Jan 1869: 15250-15800 - Also in 1868 Reilly entered into a partnership with the Belgian firm Comblain to market their breach loader in the British Army competition. There are at least 8 Reilly Comblain's around...They were adopted by Brazil Army...But I can find no Reilly serial numbers.

15270 - E.M. Reilly and Company Oxford Street London & Rue Scribe Paris. .577. Rifle SxS; Underlever. BPE. Non-rebounding hammers.
15262 - E. M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street. London. 12ga. Rifle SxS. Black Powder proof for 13 bore.
15283 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS; Jones under lever. Buffum.
15287 - E.M. Reilly & Co. Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS'. Under lever, hammer gun. Buffum
15346 - E.M. Reilly (no further info). 12ga. Shotgun SxS; Under lever, hammer gun.
15531 - “Reilly & Co. (no address mentioned). .50cal. Rifle Single barrel. Enfield type. Hammer gun. Muzzle loader. Buffum .
15625 - E.M. Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London, 2 Rue Scribe Paris. 4bore. Shotgun SxS. Underlever. Orig pinfire conv-to centerfire.

1869: 15800-16460. The internet reports that about this time E M Reilly was appointed gun maker to Napoleon III. Nowhere can I confirm this. Of Course the emperor lasted only another two years.

15857 - E.M. Reilly, 502 Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Centerbreak, underlever. Non-rebound hammers.
15961 - E.M. Reilly (no further descriptions). 12bore. Rifle SxS; Centerbreak, Underlever Hammergun.
16139 - E. M. Reilly & Co. London and Paris. 12 bore. rifle. UL, hammers, rebounding bar-locks. Gold washed presentation-1994 DGJ article
16341 - E.M. Reilly (No further descriptions). .577cal. Rifle, Snider SxS. Jones underlever; hammer gun(Weiland). First rebounding hammers (1867 patent)

1870: 16460-17120

16533 - Reilly London (address/name not stated); 16 ga. side lever, hammer gun; steel re-barrells.
16583 - E.M. Reilly & Co. New Oxford Street London. 8mm. Shotgun SxS. Smoothbore. Underlever Hammer gun.
16585 - E.M. Reilly & Co, Oxford Street, London and Rue Scribe Paris. 10ga. Rifle SxS. Underlever, Hammergun.
16607 - E.M. Reilly (no address/no photo). .577. Rifle; Single barrel. Snider Enfleld. Muzzle loader.
16765 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London & 2 Rue Scribe, Paris. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Rebounding Hammergun, Extractor.
16768 - E.M. Reilly (no address given). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Underlever hammergun.
16808 - E.M. Reilly & Co., London. 12ga, Shotgun SxS. Hammergun.
16810 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Underlever pinfire, hammergun.
16961 - E.M. Reilly (no further descriptions). 12bore. Rifle SxS. Underlever, pinfire, hammergun.
16987 - EM Reilly & Co., 502 Oxford St., London. Rifle SxS. Hammer gun, muzzle loader.

1871: 17120-17780 In Apr 1871 British adopted the Martini-Henry and began trials throughout the empire; it was formally distributed to all regiments in 1874. Any Reilly Martini should post-date Apr 1871. He built Martini's but rarely numbered them - the below mentioned 17314 being the only example I can find.

17204 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London & 2 Rue Scribe, Paris. 12bore.[/color] Underlever, pinfire, no-rebound hammergun.
17314 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London. .577/.450. Rifle single barrel. First Reilly Martini
17392 - E.M. Reilly, New Oxford Street, London. 16ga. Centerbreak, side lever hammer gun (Buffum).
17393 - E.M. Reilly, New Oxford Street, London and 2 Rue Scribe, Paris; 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Push-forwrd Underlever hammergun.
17476 - E.M. Reilly, New Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Underlever, push opener, Hammer gun (Buffum)
17495 - E.M. Reilly (address not mentioned); 12 bore Shotgun SxS. Underlever hammer gun. (Tomato Stake)
17591 - E.M. Reilly & Co. New Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 8bore. Shotgun SxS. Jones underlever, hammer gun. Buffum
17612 - E.M Reilly & Co. Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Underlever, hammer gun.

1872: 17780-18440
1873: 18440-19100

18514 - E.M Reilly & Co. (address not mentioned); 8bore. Single barrel rifle; Snider Patent and Newmark's Patent
18536 - Illegible name. 20bore. Shotgun SxS. Jones underlever, back action hammergun.
18547 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 15bore. Shotgun SxS; Pinfire, U-L. Needham’s Patent 18547 C1874?-upgrade addition?
18550 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. .577BPE. Rifle SxS; (Buffum).
18595 - E.M. Reilly, London. .450BPE. Rifle SxS. BPE; Underlever hammer gun.
18763 - E.M. Reilly (address not mentioned). 10 bore. Shotgun SxS. rebounding bar locks, underlever.
18766 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 500BPE. Rifle SxS; Underlever, rebounding hammer gun.
18860 - E.M. Reilly & Co Oxford Street London & Rue Scribe. Paris. 4bore Shotgun SxS. underlever, non-rebounding hammergun.
18954 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 500BPE. Rifle SxS. Underlever, rebounding hammer gun.

1874: 19100-19760
1875: 19760-20420

19827 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 502 New Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Side lever hammer gun. (Buffum).
19953 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London. 500BPE. Rifle SxS. U-L Hammer gun, Steel barrels. Round back-acton lock.
20125 - Name on barrel not published. 12 ga. Shotgun SxS. French site-no other info.
20265 - E.M. Reilly & Co., (address not mentioned). .577/500 Rifle SxS. underlever hammer gun.
20396 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford St., London. 20ga. Shotgun SxS. Side lever, hammer gun.

1876: 20420-21080. Reilly ads mention King of Portugal.

20467 - E.M. Reilly & Co, Oxford Street London & Rue Scribe Paris. 12ga. Side lever hammer gun.
20468 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London and rue Scribe, Paris. 10bore. Shotgun SxS. Top lever hammer gun; Purdey patent
20808 - E.M. Reilly &Co. New Oxford St, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. .500BPE. Rifle SxS. Under lever, rebounding hammer gun.
20827 - E.M. Reilly&Co ???. 10bore. Shotgun SxS. Jones underlever; rebounding sidelock hammergun.

1877: 21080-21740

21098 - E.M. Reilly & Co (no other info). 10bore. Shotgun SxS. Sidelock, bar action hammer gun, Jones under lever.
21099 - E.M. Reilly (address not mentioned). 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Sidelock hammer gun.
21304 - E.M. Reilly & Co (address not mentioned). .450/.500 BPE. Rifle SxS. Underlever hammer gun.
21339 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London. 12bore. Shotgun SxS (2nd of a pair). Underlever. Rebounding hammer gun.
21361 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. .450BPE. Rifle SxS. Underlever, Hammer gun.

1878: 21740-22400 Exhibited at Paris Exhibition 1878

21440 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 315 Oxford Street, London; 12 bore, Shotgun SxS. underlever, percussion back-action locks.
21761 - E.M. Reilly & Co, New Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 500BPE. Undersnaplever, Hammergun. (Buffum)
21883 - E.M. Reilly & Co (side plates); 20ga. Shotgun SxS. Underlever, rebounding hammer gun. (Buffum)
22038 - (no name in ad). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Underlever, hammergun.
22068 - E.M. Reilly & Co New Oxford Street London & Rue Scribe a Paris. 8calBPE. Rifle SxS. Back side lock hammergun.
22077 - (no name in ad). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Hammerless, underlever. Whitworth patent.
22093 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (no address mentioned). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Steel barrels, Underlever. Hammer gun (Buffum).
22210 - E.M. Reilly (address not legible). 12ga? Shotgun SxS. Sidelever, hammergun. No ejector. Bar action locks.

1879: 22400-23060

22423 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford St. London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 12ga. Underlever, Hammer gun, Anson release.

1880: 23060-23720 As a point of comparison, Reilly at this time was numbering about 660 guns a year; In 1880 Holland & Holland numbered 200 (89 hammerless, 111 hammer guns) and Purdy 238 (33 hammerless, 203 hammer guns).

23172 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 315 Oxford St., London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Top lever. Hammer gun. Anson 6912 patent. (1st top lever found)
23355 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 12bore. Top lever, pigeon, hammer gun.
23362 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (address not mentioned); 16bore. Shotgun SxS; bar in wood top-lever hammergun. (2nd top lever noted).
23515 - E.M. Reilly & Co, (no address); 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Underlever back action hammer gun.(claims "Edward M" made it but no photos of rib so no confirmation).
23574 - No mention of name. 12bore; Shotgun SxS; Side lever, Pigeon gun, third bite, Hammer gun.

1881: 23720-24380 Late in 1881 Oxford street was re-numbered - 315 becoming 277 and 502 becoming 16. Reilly used both numbers along with Rue Scribe in advertisements in 1882. Theoretically guns after 1881 ought to have 16 Oxford or 277 Oxford along with the Rue Scribe Paris address. However, some guns apparently continued to be labeled with the 502 and 315 Oxford Street numbers.

23746 - E.M. Reilly (no address/photo). 36ga. Rifle SxS. BPE top lever, back action, hammer gun. Gabriel restoration project.
xxxxx - E.M. Reilly & Co., 277 Oxford Street, London and Rue Scribe, Paris. .500BPE. Rifle SxS. Underlever, non rebounding hammers.
xxxxx - E.M. Reilly & Co, 16 New Oxford Street, London & 2 Rue Scribe, Paris. 12bore/.577. Cape gun SxS.
xxxxx - E.M. Reilly & Co. 16 New Oxford Street London & 2 Rue Scribe, Paris. 8bore. Rifle SxS. Hammer gun muzzle loader.
23816 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 277 Oxford Street, London. .22LR (relined). Rook rifle ([Buffum).
23843 - E.M. Riley & Co., Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Top lever, hammer gun.
24354 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 315 Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Steel barrels, hammer gun. (Buffum)

1882: 24380-25040. About this time Reilly advertisements began to carry the following phrase: "By special appointment to HM the King of Spain and HM the King of Portugal; and by special patent to HM the King of Netherlands"

24398 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (no address on rib); .500BPE. Rifle SxS. 28" barrels. Best engraving.
24627 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 500 BPE. Rifle SxS. Top lever hammer gun (Buffum)
24672 - E.M Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 16ga. Shotgun SxS. Top lever hammer gun. (Buffum)
24675 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (address not mentioned). 12bore. backpack non-ejector. Scott pattern action.
24850 - Rebarrelled. No name. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Steel Barrels by Norwich. Top lever, side lock. (Buffum)

1883: 25040-25700 Exhibited at Calcutta Exposition - silver medal.

25161 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 502, New Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. .500BPE/12ga. Rifle/Shotgun; side lever, hammer gun. (King of Spain prize - 1880 case; 1883 gun - Strange)
25232 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 502, New Oxford Street, London. Shotgun SxS. Underlever, back action hammer gun.
25273 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 502, New Oxford St., London. .450BPE. Rifle SxS. Underlever, hammer gun.
25460 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 277, New Oxford St., London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Steel barrel. Back action side lock. (Buffum)
25516 - E.M. Reilly & Co (no address). 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Box lock, side ejector. .
25572 - E.M. Reilly, 16 New Oxford Street, London and Paris. ,450BPE. Rifle SxS. Underlever Hammer gun.

1884: 25700-26360. Exhibited at London 1884, gold and silver medals.

25711 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 502 New Oxford St. London. 8bore. Shotgun SxS. Underlever hammer gun.
26218 - No address mentioned. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. BLNE.

1885: 26360-27020. International Inventions Exhibition, London, 1885 - display lauded.

26517 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (rebarrelled - Chas Smith & Sons) 20bore Shotgun SxS. Under lever Hammer gun. Buffum
26537 - No address mentioned. 20ga. Shotgun SxS. Underlever hammer gun (Buffum)
26584 - E.M. Reilly, New Oxford Street and Rue Scribe Paris. Unknown cal. Case label with SN and 1886 date.
26718 - E.M. Reilly & Co., (address not mentioned). .380 cal. Rifle Black Powder.
26733 - E.M. Reilly (no full address mentioned). 8 bore. Rifle SxS. Crystal indicator, rifled barrel. hammerless.
26957 - E. M. Reilly & Co., 16 New Oxford St., London. 8 bore. Rifle Single. Underlever, hammer gun.

1886: 26800?-27340? In late 1886 Reilly closed 2 Rue Scribe in Paris.

27340 is the last gun with Rue Scribe on its rib(and I have not seen the photos to verify this). Yet there are “Paris” addresses on a couple of follow-on guns. Reilly may have kept a hotel address in Paris for a year after closing his Rue Scribe store, possibly to handle previous orders. It was allegedly at 29 Rue Fauburg, St. Honore (a hotel). I’m wondering if this is the “Paris” referred to on the ribs of 27570 and 27854 below? (But frankly to be honest the "legend" that he had a shop or an address at 29 rue Fauburg, St. Honore has been repeated ad nauseam on the internet; no where can I verify this - this was a hotel at the time - there are no ads with this address that I can find and no Fauburg address on any gun).

The next “marker” is 34723 the last gun with 16 New Oxford Street on its rib when the store closed in 1898. 7383 guns were numbered after Rue Scribe closed, 12 years, 144 months. The below estimates were as if production proceeded at a steady rate of about 600 numbered guns a year, 50 a month. (and Sales obviously were declining as the 1890’s advanced and after EM’s death in 1890). We’ve noted that Reilly was putting barrels on his guns during this time which had been proofed up to 8 years before the gun was serial numbered, and that there seemed to be a large number of “pairs."

1886: 27020-27680 (Assuming he would have closed the shop near the end of the hunting season, Fall 1996.)

27340? - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London & Rue Scribe, Paris. 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Hammer gun. Last SN w/rue Scribe
27377 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 277 Oxford Street, London. 12ga, Shotgun SxS. 3 barrel set, one steel. Crystal indicator (Buffum).
27515 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (address not mentioned). Rook Rifle converted to .410.
27570 - E.M. Reilly, Oxford Street, London & Paris. 16ga. Shotgun SxS. BLNE (Buffum).

1887: 27680-28300. There is one gun 27954 which appears to have an unclear Paris address. It may be St. Honore or just plain Paris…like 27570 above.

27687 - E.M. Reilly & Co.(address not mentioned). 20bore. Shotgun SxS. Underlever hammergun. (rifle conversion).
27750 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 277 Oxford Street, London. Xxxx. SxS. Whitworth steel barrels.
27847 - Name Not mentioned. .450BPE. Rifle SxS. Under lever, ejectors, rebounding hammer gun.
27854 - E.M. Reilly & Co+ (London address and a Paris address)(unclear). 12 ga. Shotgun SxS. Side lever, hammer gun.(Buffum)
2804x? - Name Not mentioned. .410. Rifle/shotgun single. Converted from rifle. Steel barrel. Top lever hammer gun.

1888: 28300-28900

285xx - E.M. Reilly & Co., 277 Oxford Street, London. 12ga, Shotgun SxS. Top lever ejector. Anson & Deeley patent 6265 (1887?)
286xx - E.M. Reilly & Co., address not posted. 12 ga, Shotgun SxS. top lever, steel 29" barrels. Dutch site.
28861 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 277 Oxford Street, London; 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Top lever rebounding hammer gun.

1889: 28900-29500
1890: 29500-30100. EM Reilly dies. His sons were 19 and 16.

29527 - E.M. Reilly & Co., London. 10bore. Shotgun SxS. Black Powder, underlever, hammer gun.

1891: 30100-30700

30166 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 16 New Oxford Street, London. 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Top lever..
30207 - E.M. Reilly & Co. 277 Oxford Street, London. 10ga. Shotgun SxS.
30245 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 16 New Oxford Street, London. 8boreBPE. Rifle SxS. Underlever hammergun.
30247 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 16 New Oxford Street., London. 12 ga. Shotgun SxS. BLE. Buffum.
30257 - E.M. Reilly & Co., no address. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock.
30260 - E.M. Reilly & Co. 16 New Oxford Street, London. 12bore. Steel barrels boxlock.
303xx - E.M. Reilly, 277 Oxford St., London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Steel barrels. Sidelever, hammergun. Not for Ball. (Lubzinski).
30342 - No address. 12ba. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock hammerless live pigeon gun. (Buffum).
30363 - E.M. Reilly, London. 12 ga. shotgun SxS. top lever, Anson Deely patent. #1 of a pair.
30436 - name/addressNot mentioned. .380. Rifle single barrel. Hammergun Park rifle. Box lock ejector.
30456 - Address/name no mentioned. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Top lever Box lock. (Terry Weiland)
30680 - E.M. Reilly & Co., (address not mentioned). 12 bore Shotgun SxS. top lever hammer gun.

1892: 30700-31300

30782 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 16 New Oxford St, London. Shotgun. double rifled barrels, under-lever, hammer gun
30791 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 16 New Oxford St, London. .380BPE. Rifle SxS. Box lock.
30846 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (address not mentioned. 450BPE. Rifle SxS. Steel barrels. (Buffum).

1893: 31300-31900
1894: 31900-32500

32247 - E.M Reilly & CO., 16 New Oxford St., London; 12 ga. Shotgun SxS. BLE. (Buffum)

1895: 32500-33100

32530 - E.M. Reilly & Co., (address not mentioned). .500 BLE Rifle SxS.
32665 - E.M. Reilly (full address not mentioned in either ad). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Box lock.
32667 - E.M. Reilly & Co., New Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. (Buffum).
32971 - E.M. Reilly & Co,, 16 New Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock.
32974 - E.M. Reilly & Co. 16 New Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock. Ball and Shot. (Buffum)

1896: 33100-33700

33269 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford St., London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock.
33286 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (address not mentioned). 12bore. Shotgun SxS. 1 of pair
33287 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (address not mentioned). 12bore. Shotgun SxS. 2of pair
33619 - (no name on rib - rebarreled). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Steel barrel Sidelock, sleeved by Westley Richards 1960.
33623 - E.M. Reilly & Co., (address not mentioned). 12bore. Shotgun SxS.
33673 - E.M. Reilly & Co., London. 12 bore (original Rifle). SxS. top lever hammer gun. steel barrels.

1897: 33700-34300

33858 - E.M. Reilly (full address not mentioned). 12ga. Shotgun SS. Top lever, Side lock Steel Barrels.
33922 - E.M. Reilly (address not mentioned). 12ga. Shotgun SxS.
33950 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 16, New Oxford St., London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Sidelock ejector. (Obendorf’s gun0
34164 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 16 New Oxford Rd., London, 12 ga, SxS shotgun.
34221 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 16 New Oxford Street, London. 16 bore-.450. Cape gun SxS. (pair) Buffum
34222 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 16 New Oxford Street, London. 16 bore-.450. Cape gun SxS. (pair) Buffum
34247 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 16 New Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. (Buffum)

1898: 34300-34900. Reilly closed 16 Oxford Street, in 1898 exact month not known but presumably late in the year. 277 Oxford Street remained open.

34330 - E.M. Reilly & Co., Oxford Street, London. .410. Sidelever, hammergun.
34424 - E.M. Reilly & Co., London (address not mentioned); 12 ga, Shotgun SxS. NE
34442 - E. M. Reilly & Co., (Steel re-barrel - no address). 12 ga, Shotgun SxS. restocked. SLE.
34478 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (full address not mentioned). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock.
34523 - E.M. Reilly (full address not mentioned). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Box lock.
34572 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (full address not mentioned)/ 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Sidelock.
34582 - E.M. Reilly (no address mentioned). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Steel Barrel, Hammer gun.
34723 - E.M Reilly & Co., 16 New Oxford Street, London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Hammer gun. Last SN with 16 Oxford St.

1898-1903: 34800? - 35423. 1903 Reilly was located only at 277 New Oxford Street. It appears only maybe some 600 guns were numbered by Reilly over this 5 year period - 120/year - 10 a month.

Internet has him using some gimmicks at this time, such as labeling one gun "Holborn Bars" - the original Reilly shop. Not to denigrate this "legend," but before accepting it, I'd like to see photos of the gun rib.


34865 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 277 New Oxford St. London. 12bore. Shotgun SxS. BLE.
35079 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (address not mentioned). 12bore. Shotgun SxS. SLE. Toby Barclay -(barrels proofed pre-1896)
35251 - E.M Reilly & Co., (address not mentioned). 12bore. Shotgun SxS. (frame/barrels)
35367 - E.M. Reilly (address not mentioned). 12 ga. Shotgun SxS. BLE. Steel Barrels.

1903 - 1911. 35438 - 35650? Reilly closed 277 Oxford street in 1903 (month not known) and moved to 295 Oxford Street where he remained for 8 years.

35423 - E.M. Reilly & Co" , 295 Oxford Street in London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. BLE. (Buffum) (1904?) First SN with 295 Oxford.
35458 - E.M. Reilly & Co (address not mentioned). 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock.
35472 - E.M. Reilly & Co (sleeved, no address). 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock.
35493 - E.M. Reilly & Co. (rebarreled). 16ga. Shotgun SxS. Barrels by Elderkin & Son. (Buffum)
35551 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 295 Oxford Street, London. .300. Rifle Single barrel. Rook rifle. Sidelever.

1912-1917? 35600 - 35700. E.M Reilly located at 13 High Street, Marylebone. No guns with this address on them have been found.

35678 - E.M. Reilly (no address mentioned). 12bore. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock.

Post 1917 130000? - 150000+ (1 added to front of SN's) - Reilly name bought by Charles Riggs who continued to make “E.M. Reilly" guns. It looks like he added a "1" in front of the Reilly series when he took it over, - perhaps starting about (1)37,000? indicating he may have sold up to 15,000 numbered guns. Only a few can be found so far..
..81584 ?? - E.M. Reilly (address not mentioned). 8bore. SxS rifle. 7 groove rifling. non rebound hammer gun, under lever (No photos of SN; odd number)
134183 - E.M. Reilly & Co., 16ga. SxS shotgun. BLNE
136535 - E.M. Reilly..not mentioned. 12 ga. Shotgun SxS. BLE.
138279 - E.M. Reilly (address not mentioned). 20bore Shotgun SxS. BLE
140415 - E.M. Reilly of London. 16bore shotgun SxS. 30" steel barrels
140451 - E.M. Reilly, London. 16bore Shotgun SxS. (Charles Riggs, post 1917)
150570 - E.M. Reilly & Co., London. 12ga. Shotgun SxS. Boxlock non-ejector.

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34221 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 16 New Oxford Street, London. 16 bore. Shotgun SxS. (pair) Buffum
34222 - E.M. Reilly & Co, 16 New Oxford Street, London. .450. Rifle SxS. (pair) Buffum

My notes were not clear on this pair of guns: they are "cape guns", 16 x .450 #2

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