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Originally Posted By: MyGSPIzzy
Im starting a search for an American-made SxS for pass shooting doves, the occasional ducks and moderate amounts of clay shooting. The Model 21 is high on my list and specifically a 30 barrelled version with a straight stock and BTFE. Id prefer fixed chokes but am not completely opposed to choke tubes. As much as Id like a little engraving, its not likely the budget will support it. As a shooter, originality is not required.

I am new to Model 21s and was hoping for a bit of a crash course from the members. Are there certain eras or serial number ranges to avoid or pursue? Any common issues or repairs to be aware of? What would be the current rate for such a gun? Ive found two in the desired configuration for $5k+/-.

Thanks in advance.


I've had a lingering case of Model 21 wantitis myself, and I've successfully warded off that virus by owning a couple of Sears and Roebuck imported, AyA made, J.C. Higgins Model 100 shotguns, and the pair didn't cost a thousand dollars.

The AyA J.C. Higgins Model 100's sold in the 1954 Sears Wish Book for $125 as "Sears Best", and on the same page the Model 21 Winchester was listed for $295.

The Model 100's mostly came in 12 gauge with 28 inch, slow rust blued, chopper lump barrels, choked modified and full, with a non selective single trigger. They aren't a Model 21, but they resemble one, and it was Sear's attempt to market a half price Model 21 replica. They are certainly, a very high quality shotgun that scratches my Model 21 itch for very little money invested.

If you are interested, search Gunbroker and the other auction sites for J.C. Higgins Model 100 that looks like a flatside Model 21 Winchester. Sears imported a lot of Spanish guns, but only that one, is a high quality Model 21 "homage" gun.

Sometimes you see them mistakenly listed as Matadors, but they aren't. The Model 100's were made to a very high standard, had firing tips in the hammer noses, beautifully made and finished barrels, horn buttplates, and were top notch guns.

And if you don't like a Model 100, it's not hard to move one down the road to somebody that does.

Hope this helps.

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Nobody who ever had an itch to own an AC Cobra was satisfied with the purchase of a Ford Focus.

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Two barrel set, covers all your bases.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/736781699

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Ive got a beautiful double trigger, splinter forend mdl 21 I'd sell for $3000. Factory 28 in choked cyl/mod as marked on the barrels.


There you go bud, there's your Model 21. I wish I could have found a deal like that locally. I would have jumped all over it.

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He wants a 30" barreled gun. Not everyone understands why that is so important to some of us.

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He's going to run right into a bad case of sticker shock.

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To some of us who know what we want, we'd rather have nothing than have something that's not right, regardless the price.

I can't see too bad sticker shock with a screw choked 32" M21. Remember, he said he was okay with choke tubes, even though he was somewhat ridiculed for it. If choke tubes are that bad in a 21, it ought to lower the price a good bit, eh?

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They are out there, you might want to check out the upcoming auction houses. I just picked up a nice circa 1948, 30" barrel, ejector gun, for $1,700.00 hammer price. About $2,050.00, delivered to my FFL. I'll post a photo when I get back form the Vegas gun show.


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Originally Posted By: Stan
To some of us who know what we want, we'd rather have nothing than have something that's not right, regardless the price.

I can't see too bad sticker shock with a screw choked 32" M21. Remember, he said he was okay with choke tubes, even though he was somewhat ridiculed for it. If choke tubes are that bad in a 21, it ought to lower the price a good bit, eh?

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I agree, yes it would lower the price. I might have gotten discouraged a little to soon looking for one of these things at a decent price.

I just hope he has better luck than I did. smile

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I have no idea what a good price is. I guess it would depend on whether I was a buyer or seller.

But here is one that sold recently. Only measly 28" barrels oan a12 gauge though.

https://auctions.thegunrunner.com/lots/v...28-barrels-1932


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