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In the wake of the most recent Florida school shooting, many of the nation's teens are pressing legislators to pass new Gun Control Legislation. They are asking for Universal Background Checks, bans on AR-15 type semi-auto rifles, bans on large capacity magazines, raising the legal age to buy rifles, etc.

Naturally, they are concerned, as we all are, about the relatively recent phenomena of violent school shootings. We are hearing the inevitable cries for "Common Sense Gun Laws" and the reasoning that such restrictions are necessary if they will save even one life.

Something to consider is the facts: Over the past 25 years, an average of 10 students per years have been fatally shot in schools. That is obviously unacceptable, but in 2016, 4689 teens were killed in fatal automobile accidents, up from 4272 in 2014. A good number of these fatal automobile accidents involving teens have been due to distracted driving due to texting and cell phone usage.

Fatalities in teen crashes spike after steady decline, studies find

School shootings are not the new normal

Obviously, since many teens now seem quite willing to give up rights in exchange for safety, it would be much more practical and beneficial for us to raise the legal driving age to at least 21, and also place strict age limits on the possession and use of cell phones.

These common sense changes will save over 400 times as many teens lives as the 2nd Amendment restrictions that are being proposed.

It is not surprising to find that the recent teen anti-gun protest movement and the town hall meetings are being funded and organized by anti-gun Democrats and anti-gun News Organizations like CNN. Once again, it seems likely that the shooter in Parkland, Florida had been under treatment for depression and ADHD, and was likely on SSRI anti-depressant drugs which have the severe side effect of causing suicidal and homicidal tendencies. I hope gun owners will be contacting their elected representatives to relate their opposition to restrictions on law abiding gun owners when there are much better ways to save teens lives.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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A good argument. Similar to my counter to people who propose further gun control over here by their use of the 'well if it will save one child's life it will be worth it' by my suggestion of a return to the 'Red Flag Act' which required vehicles not to exceed 4 miles per hour and have someone walk in front with a red flag to warn of its approach. That will save hundreds every year. Being car owners they soon shut up. Lagopus.....

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Even the Liberal Left anti-gunner Michael Moore is beginning to understand that the presence of guns and mental illness in our society is not new, and something else must be responsible for these senseless school shootings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpinCRaAQOk



You don't have to be terribly old to recall a time when students brought guns to school for participation in Shooting Teams and Clubs, or to go hunting after classes. Pharmaceutical Companies and doctors are raking in billions prescribing and producing nightmare drugs, while our Constitutional Rights are being threatened once again. Many of the deaths that are blamed on firearms are suicides, and these drugs are a driving force behind that epidemic too.

https://ssristories.org/


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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There were so many flags with this knucklehead, when will the time come that there is accountability for letting this type slip through the cracks. If there was some limitation about looking at situations when he was a minor, then simply lower the age to unseal records of a minor, for this type of background check. But, that didn't seem to be an issue.

I caught a little of Wayne L. speaking to CPAC earlier today. Interesting, he said under the last administration, if an elderly person gave power of attorney to someone else for medical decisions, they were flagged. All of these tactics, including parading snowflake minors in front of cameras are targeted at the law abiding.

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My two friends who I've been hunting with since 1984 were both killed by a teenager who was using her cell phone while driving. Her Chevy Blazer rolled up over Bill's car and through the windshield. Bill died at the scene, Bob died at the hospital. The teenager hardly had a scratch on her.

We were planning to go to South Dakota in 2009, I went alone.

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We are on the verge of a single tragedy erase more than just our rights to own guns. The sheriff on CNN's "town hall" last night was demanding that police be given more powers to rip people from their homes.

As an attorney, I can tell you first hand that was is being suggested are some very dangerous proposals that will result in a lot of suffering for a lot of people. My colleagues are very concerned. The purpose behind a written constitution is to prevent a lone assassin's trigger finger from rewriting our society's fundamental guarantees.

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Lapierre's speech today considered so newsworthy it was broadcast within hours, in part, on our national public radio network.

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Possibly we could dispense with the evil AMA, Big Pharma, depraved doctors conspiracy thing.
Dana Loesch's comments are relevant

“We have resources available at anyone’s disposal if they want to reinforce their schools, but I’ll say it again loud and clear: We’re parents too.”

Mental illness IS an increasing public health crisis.
OUR families are affected by post-partum depression, eating disorders, PTSD, Autism Spectrum Disorder, bi-polar disorder, and substance abuse.
OUR families understand the pain of suicide and intra-family violence.
Very few of us are so evil, or stupid, that we wouldn't give anything to help those we love.

Anti-depressants save lives
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0087089/
and like every medicine have side-effects.

The failure to adequately evaluate and treat mental illness is a major contributor to violence in our society, in addition to the breakdown of families (boys raised without fathers feeling lost, abandoned and angry) and the violent fantasy world of internet pornography and video games into which mentally ill young men descend ie Adam Lanza, Nikolas Cruz and the rest.
About 15 years ago I was stunned by all the 11-15 year old Boy Scouts coming to summer camp on 5 psychoactive medications, primarily for behavioral control. I must agree that inappropriate multi-drug treatment regimens are a terrible problem. The solution is more and better mental health providers, not blaming every act of violence on SSRIs.

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I didn't see a discussion about the effects of suddenly stopping some of these drugs; there have been many shootings linked to this rather than side effects experienced white taking them.
Mike

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