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Mark, some of the posters are talking about both barrels firing when the back trigger is pulled once, and others are talking about both barrels firing in sequence with two pulls of the rear trigger. The latter is like the Superposed design...........the former I have never heard of, but is what the description I posted sounds like.
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Mark,
I meant fire both at the same time, with one pull of the trigger.
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I am talking about a gun that fires both barrels with one pull when you pull the back trigger one time.
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Mark, do the guns you are aware of have purposely divergent barrels to cause the two barrels' patterns not to be regulated, or print atop each other, but to be horizontally divergent?
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Mark, do the guns you are aware of have purposely divergent barrels to cause the two barrels' patterns not to be regulated, or print atop each other, but to be horizontally divergent?
SRH Can't say for sure. I would guess they pattern normal so if you pulled front then back it would shoot where pointed.
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Stan,
A Spanish gun that fires both barrels when one trigger is pulled is likely defective, it was not designed that way. Some Spanish guns are very good, but others have a reputation of having soft parts. Sears and sear notches are particularly known for that.
Mike Mike I know of guns made and advertised to shoot both barrels when the back is pulled 1st or to work normal if pulled front then back. Pretty easy to build that way. At one time the production side of Verney-Carron was selling Spanish guns like this to the European market. Damn! Mark, your posts caused me to look at my V-C catalog from 1999, at which time they were not producing any sxs of their own. They had 2 models--the Helux and the J.E.T.--which they state were "made for us in the European Union". The Helux looks very German, nothing out of the ordinary about it. But the J.E.T. certainly looks Spanish. And one version, the Canardouze (12ga magnum waterfowl gun), has the following characteristic, translating from the French: "The second trigger permits the simultaneous firing of both barrels." Don't know how many times I've looked at that catalog--without catching that detail about the "Canardouze".
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I'm usually leery of translations, they very often lead to misunderstandings. Does anyone know what "one put running" means?
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Stan, your initial comment about it being a riot gun is starting to have weight.  Gil
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Stan,
A Spanish gun that fires both barrels when one trigger is pulled is likely defective, it was not designed that way. Some Spanish guns are very good, but others have a reputation of having soft parts. Sears and sear notches are particularly known for that.
Mike Mike I know of guns made and advertised to shoot both barrels when the back is pulled 1st or to work normal if pulled front then back. Pretty easy to build that way. At one time the production side of Verney-Carron was selling Spanish guns like this to the European market. Damn! Mark, your posts caused me to look at my V-C catalog from 1999, at which time they were not producing any sxs of their own. They had 2 models--the Helux and the J.E.T.--which they state were "made for us in the European Union". The Helux looks very German, nothing out of the ordinary about it. But the J.E.T. certainly looks Spanish. And one version, the Canardouze (12ga magnum waterfowl gun), has the following characteristic, translating from the French: "The second trigger permits the simultaneous firing of both barrels." Don't know how many times I've looked at that catalog--without catching that detail about the "Canardouze". That's the gun I'm talking about. I saw it and herd the story while I was training with V-C. In the conference room they have a wall full of guns from there early days through today. Lots of cool stuff there.
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Ok. I think the trigger thing is settled......... how about the divergence? No way do I believe there are three mis-translations in one place.
1) divergent
2) large bullet group
3) (oo)
I believe this gun is intended to shoot divergent patterns, but can't figure out why.
SRH
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